Unlocking Longevity and Optimal Health with Dr. Jeff Donatello

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(00:00) you got to exercise you got to eat you gotta have good relationships you gotta sleep well um these regenerative biologics you know I do an infusion once or twice a year I think that makes a big difference um but I think you really have to just be aware of of being happy do what you love and and again getting back to purpose if you don’t have purpose you have nothing and for a lot of people that’s where that anxiousness comes in right um with you know the more if you don’t have a purpose then your your brain
(00:32) doesn’t know what to do with the day what’s ahead of you you become anxious and I always say being anxious you may have heard this before um it’s like having your foot on the gas pedal of your car pegged right your brain can’t handle that and it’s going to break down and that’s depression right so depression is just anxiety for too long and um so I think the biggest thing is you have to keep your brain chemistry proper and there’s many factors that come into that and I think you know if
(01:01) it wasn’t for for movement and exercise as you know my meditative state that I I don’t meditate that much but I think that going out for a walk is meditative I think mountain biking is meditative paddle boarding is meditative you you go through this balance and um you know no just do what you love right and uh that’s what it comes down to [Music] hello everyone and welcome to the flow over fear podcast where it is our mission to help you to rise above fear and realize your ultimate potential in leadership and life I’m your host Adam
(01:38) Hill and it is my goal to share with you the human side of high performance my guests share their experience with fear anxiety struggle Challenge and most importantly despite all of it how they Rose above it to achieve incredible results so if you’re ready to rise up let’s get started hello everyone and welcome to flow over fear thanks for joining me today and my guest my guest today is Dr Jeff Donatello and along with his wife he is the co-owner of the center for well-being a clinic providing services
(02:14) for weight loss stem cell and regenerative medicine and functional medicine and he’s also a speaker and author a husband a father of four and beyond that Jeff has so much more to his resume he’s lived a life of adventure competing in over 110 triathlons one of which he is he’s owned or more of which he has owned he’s hike Kilimanjaro an ice volcano in Chile and that is an ice volcano not a nice volcano and he’s traveled to more than 50 countries he’s on The Cutting Edge of stem cell therapy
(02:47) helping people to overcome chronic pain and find longevity among other things thanks for joining me Jeff appreciate you being here hey my pleasure I’m excited to talk to you yeah yeah so uh so we have a so we’re going to get into a lot today I mean Triathlon longevity inflammation EOS I mean this is going to kind of run the Gambit so uh so I guess strap in but I uh I I wanted to get started and just kind of go back and see how you what led you into this life of abundance and Adventure that you’re in
(03:17) now what how did it start for Jeff Donatello you know let’s go sculpting background right because I did not come from a normal place um my dad was born in China to a Russian mother and an Italian father they owned movie theaters they were entrepreneurial my grandfather would have been EOS all the way and uh they they came in and they did very well and then the Communists kicked him out and uh they actually lived in a bomb shelter in southern Italy for six years he lost siblings you know I had to die of dysentery came to the US when he was 12.
(03:54) um speaking Chinese Russian and Italian and uh married my mother when he was 21 and my mother’s grandfather played for the Boston Red Sox oh no kidding that’s crazy immigrant who was a big entrepreneur in New England they owned a large trucking company so I have this entrepreneurial background athletic background and uh you know speaking of backgrounds that’s my dog breaking in though yeah so that’s my background so it’s um you know they were both teachers and you know a lot of times in these podcasts
(04:24) it’s people talk about you know the tough places where they they’ve come from I was very fortunate I don’t have a lot of traumatic stress in my life like in the past growing up that you know my father was my gym teacher right and uh my mother was a first grade teacher so I’ve been pretty lucky and I just blast through things and yeah have I had tough times yeah I mean I’ve been flat broke a couple times in my career but you know it always comes back and we just keep pushing forward that’s that’s
(04:52) fascinating and I love that background because it runs it’s so versatile you have it from every direction you know your grandfather is a baseball player from the Boston Red Sox playing back in the day and then and you know the on the other side you have uh you know uh you have uh immigrants from China of Russian and Italian descent so that there’s there’s a lot there do you feel like the and and it sounds like there’s a lot of a lot of folks in that in that family tree that you know had an entrepreneurial Spirit you know you had
(05:22) you had the the trucking company even they baseball played baseball there’s risk going into that so do you feel that’s where you got your entrepreneurial Spirit you know your parents were teachers that kind of thing yeah I think it was it was nature nurture and um you know it was one of those things where he just you know I was never raised to you this this podcast is flow over fear I didn’t really have a lot of fear um which has been and that’s not me I’m not like psychotic right I understand
(05:48) that you know there’s failure in this world like I just said before I have failed um but you know just get back up on the horse and just keep pushing forward and you know we had we call our post covet shift in our business we own Center for well-being my wife and I Kelly and um you know the Government tried to shut us down we owned three medical practices and um we were not doing well we did a lot of stem cell therapy prior and who gets themselves a lot of older people with arthritis the government told them
(06:16) to stay home and get multiple shots in their arms and what they did was they got heavy that our general populace did so we made a shift to you shot a metabolic recent weight loss program and that led me to EOS it led me to go abundance it led me to financial I wouldn’t say freedom but you know I’m at that Champions level and go abundance because we did that shift and we said all right what can we do you know my background’s in Chiropractic I’m a clinical nutritionist I also specialize in functional medicine and we utilize
(06:47) that to our advantage in um and it really blew up so I guess um you just got to be open to the next opportunity and and the universe will supply them you just have to be ready to to jump on them yeah well that’s a powerful message too because you you talk about going into covid you almost get shut down and you have to adapt you have to change your business model in some ways yeah was that the was that kind of the trigger or or the change that shifted you into that that that hockey stick moment where you became an
(07:16) eight-figure business is that how that led up yeah 100 um it did and you know we were able to solely build this metabolic rate lost program up and my wife Kelly has a marketing and sales background she’s listen without her I would be dead in the water um so with EOS I’m the Visionary right she’s the mentor even though she maybe doesn’t want to be the implementer as much but um I’m out you know trying to find the next best thing and um we put it together we and EOS was recommended to us and um it our EOS instructor Dan
(07:47) himmel if he’s listening was a a GoPro one of their old time GoPros for many years he about three or four visits him maybe three months and he said you need to go talk to these go abundance people and that’s what I did and then honestly everything just took off because uh my life has gone in many directions meeting fine people like yourself I have all my friends now seemingly are from go abundance and it’s pretty cool it’s it’s it’s so true yeah go abundance is such a great community of people and
(08:19) I mean that’s one of the things that comes up multiple times in this and I’ve talked to a few uh a few GoPros on this podcast for sure uh that Community is that powerful force that just drives us to the next level and and um and I love that story I love you telling that because you know with the right attitude with the right framework right with the right mindset you can take a bad potentially catastrophic situation and if you can align it correctly you could turn that into something that just catapults you to the next level so
(08:49) that’s that’s pretty huge agreed I think every day is an opportunity um you know there’s one podcast you’re listening to I think it’s Brad Lee dropping bombs I love listening to this guy he gets up in the morning and he’s thankful just to be alive and they have that you know that word gratitude is thrown out freely but I think um you know living in the moment um understanding that that every day is an opportunity and that’s not contrived I think I feel I always go back and say why am I in this situation I think brain
(09:18) chemistry I’m very fortunate um to have good brain chemistry where I I just maybe I’m too stupid I don’t know I just keep whatever the Day brings um we have a plan we go through the day and we keep building building and over time if you surround yourself with smarter people than you which you know I do for sure um I have almost 30 real smart ladies that work with me on our team and uh it’s it’s just I’m very fortunate that way to be able to you know run a new motto is is higher slow Fire fast and
(09:52) surround yourself with the best people you can so here we go I’d love to dig a little deeper into that because that that is somewhat on the periphery of a of an EOS framework you know where the right person writes seats get it want it so you use a lot of that kind of methodology in your hiring practices and it seems to have worked for you pretty well yeah so if someone’s watching or listening or watching this they don’t know what entrepreneurial operating systems are right so it’s a system where
(10:19) you build your business and you know you said it real quick our right person rights C right and do they get it do they want it do they have the capacity for it and that’s everything we have these meetings for those of you who aren’t in EOS they’re called level 10 meetings we have rocks goals that are set out and each week we talk about everything that needs to be talked about for an hour and a half high level management and then we have our sub-level meetings and you can’t with EOS and sounds like a commercial for Eos
(10:48) right and there’s a lot of competitors I’m sure but for us if you follow it um you can’t fail I mean you just can’t because things get brought up and what you you just jump on them ahead of time and I never did that prior it was kind of like shoot a dart at the board and hope it hit something but that’s I attribute our success to that for the most part yeah yeah and that and that’s uh and I’ve had that kind of the same the same experience uh and and I shared with this a few weeks ago now on a on a
(11:18) solo episode that I did on EOS because I went to the EOS convention and uh and share and and when it comes to like fear organizations experience fear too and a lot of that fear comes from uncertainty yeah and so get the certainty and the discipline you get from something like EOS is really really powerful and yeah it is a commercial but we’re not getting paid for it but uh at least not directly from EOS that’s for sure right but yeah it’s uh and and so are you um uh so you grew pretty rapidly to an eight-figure
(11:49) business you kind of said that not coming from a business background you learned a lot in that process how uh what did you learn what were some of your biggest lessons you know not coming from a business background I I really have taken like one Business course I’m a crazy podcast person I listen to do lots lots and lots of podcasts so I think um you know what did I learn man we could we could talk forever um I think that you need to watch your numbers right I’m not a numbers guy I don’t um you know I don’t feel I don’t
(12:23) like I was never a math guy a lot of entrepreneurial guys are not that right we’re not in that brain we’re not analytical but I had to force myself to watch the numbers and the numbers don’t lie um these metrics especially with our advertising if you put a certain dollar amount into a certain radio station you should get money back right and also not to the great thing about EOS is you get these numbers your scorecard every week Don’t Panic right if your numbers aren’t good this week it’s it’s okay
(12:52) um if they’re not good after a month okay let’s start looking at it and then after a quarter we have problems but I I think right now by by putting this all together in a systematic way okay we’re able to really jump on any problems we have and what I learned was that you you have to have systems in order to succeed and to go from like a four or five million dollar gross revenue to like 10 and we’re not there the valuation might be there but we’re not there yet um it’s very difficult you have to start
(13:25) bringing in HR you have to start bringing in fractional CFOs you may be a COO c-suite right I didn’t even know Adam what c-suite meant three years ago I didn’t know is that like a candy bar or something to me so it’s awesome sounds delicious but it’s not rocket science right it’s like right no there’s um I mean chief technology officer we need we have we have like 30 computers 30 laptops right that yeah need to all be hooked up and running and you it’s just a lot going on yes yeah it because
(13:56) it does become a lot and I mean and and you said it so powerful you have to have systems to succeed and and especially as you’re starting to grow you’re starting to see that that level up um and and did you find it was it was scary or or or that there was some element of hesitation or fear or something in there at hiring all of these higher profile people c-suite types of people well we haven’t hired him yet yeah we have um you know we have some six-figure people right but we aren’t there yet and um is there hesitation
(14:33) yeah so you know I don’t want to make it sound like we have this perfect machine running there’s pieces you know I I get like an eight cylinder car right now and I feel like we’re running on like four and a half cylinders right yeah yeah but you know it’s there’s coming up in the next year we want to start adding more and more um but it’s all about leads and marketing and sales and inside sales and and training people and um and then delivering a product we have 10 health coaches we have two nurse practitioners
(15:00) we do a lot of stem cell therapy I have two guys flying in a private jet tomorrow who picks them up at the airport right we have a special Range Rover in my garage that uh right now doesn’t have Center for oil being painted on the side yet it was supposed to to pick them up at the airport um and little things like that right yeah but yeah it’s the little things that add up and um yeah so it’s fun though I enjoy it that’s incredible yeah and and so kind of Shifting Gears into talking about what what you do in the business what
(15:31) you do at the at the center for well-being um yeah I mean it’s it’s stem cell therapy it’s regenerative therapy it’s functional medicine what so that a lot of that I mean you hear a lot of these things like stem cell uh things and I know that for people that maybe you know my age and older 40 years old like the the debate that was around that you know stem cells and things like that always got a little controversial so what what does that look like today how how are uh how does stem cell therapy work and and
(16:00) what are we using it for how how is it um how is it used in our daily lives now yeah yeah there’s a lot to unwrap um number one you don’t have to go to foreign countries for the vast majority of issues we use regenerative biologics and there’s lots of different types on a lot we’ve been about six years in 2 000 different clients um and we know what works and what doesn’t so if you if you’re listening into this and you have arthritis where the whole joint isn’t fused up and you can still walk let’s
(16:28) say you’re a skier that has problems at the end of the day or you’re a hiker going down it hurts or if you have a torn rotator cuff and your shoulders killing you right and you’re working at a CrossFit and like most fit people I mean you can’t do Iron Man swimming all those miles without having imbalances that over time are going to start micro tearing tissue so what we use right now is a product that I think is kind of neat if you want to dive into it it’s called purified amniotic fluid so
(16:53) healthy baby healthy mom the mom raises her hand there’s cord banks around the country that will go to that C-section birth and when the baby’s born they take after the baby’s born they take that amniotic fluid that protects the baby right but it’s the most anti-inflammatory fluid known to mankind for two million years 80 000 Generations we’ve evolved and this is what has protected us from our mom’s disease and our mom’s vertigo maybe if Mom Falls you know she lands in her stomach we don’t
(17:21) get crushed because of this fluid so we so we are now able to take it out and third party tested for disease under FDA guidelines and then if everything’s clean we freeze it and it’s it’s actually cleaned up where our scientists have used the same scientist over and over again um he has a proprietary way to get 250 billion of these little micro vesicles here bubbles what they do is they turn your immune system on and off and they make proteins and that’s how we heal in utero so a mouse is very similar to
(17:54) similar to us DNA wise that’s why we use them in experiments you can cut a baby mouse and they’ve done this they can cut the Mouse’s face with a knife two weeks before it’s born and it comes out and you can’t even see the cut because it’s regenerated so what do you think would happen if we took that fluid from a human it’s exactly what you have in you Adam it’s just 250 billion of these little bubbles in a once you see Frozen vial it’s thought out and it’s injected under ultrasound guidance into a joint
(18:24) into the damaged part of the joint and it starts regenerating tissue so this shoulder of mine right here I can barely move my shoulder from Crossfit tearing these muscles a couple years ago and I can do if I cheat 60 push-ups in 60 seconds if I go fast right I could not do that and that’s you know we we talked about 110 triathlons later um my knee was killing me um after Iron Man Cozumel after I made Cozumel I tore my medial meniscus and man and I’ve now it used to ache and be sore and now it doesn’t so I think that
(19:01) um it’s one of those things that has now we talked about hockey sticks it’s just starting to become generally known amongst the public but I’ll tell you I work as a distributor around about 20 docs around the country that use this product we have four NFL teams that use it Joe Rogan uses this exact product when anyone goes on The Joe Rogan show and you hear him talking about it I know because I’ve trained the doctors that injected into him um and it’s it’s now the people that are in the know understand that
(19:30) um there are ways to regenerate tissue the problem is it costs money right yeah and you know it’s four thousand dollars plus to do a knee um the irony is though if you do get a knee replacement done people say oh insurance covers it uh usually they’ll cover 90 it’s a forty thousand dollar surgery you got to pay four or five grand out of pocket and there’s a 25 chance that that’s going to go bad quickly yeah yeah with this recovery and all that I imagine the what what does the recovery process look like for
(20:00) something like the amniotic fluid uh injections so this is where the NFL players love it because before we used to use a cellular product and some people do from the umbilical cord called Wharton’s jelly um it’s a thousand times bigger it creates an inflammatory response um compared to these little micro vesicles and it works very well but it would cause inflammation so you couldn’t get back on the field now with the amniotic fluid they can inject the before the game and go out and play and still get results so really it’s it’s
(20:28) one and done for a lot of people um but not everyone’s the same we have to treat everybody individually right so this is one of the mistakes many offices will you do across there’s a lot of poor players in this field and you got to be careful um a lot of guys do it as a money grab on the side unless it’s a business I get it but a lot of guys will take on anybody as a client you get the money we’ll inject you we go through these inclusion exclusion criteria where the person has to be have a certain level of
(20:57) Health so if you come into our office or your parents or someone you know or love and their hemoglobin A1c a marker for type 2 diabetes is eight nine ten if they’re on three different blood pressure meds if they’re on a Statin if they are overweight by 40 50 pounds if they can barely breathe they’re systemically inflamed and they’re not going to get the results if we work with a go abundance guy and we’ve had like maybe 10 right now come in to have this done typically they’re going to do very well
(21:27) because you’re healthy right yeah yeah so that’s what we want we want a fairly healthy person they’re going to get the best results so typically athletes people who are people who are healthy maybe active and but but they’re hindered now because they have some injury like a like a torn meniscus or or torn rotator cuff or is there is there anything I mean with regard to that kind of stuff like any joint kind of Tears or anything like that is there anything that can’t be treated on a healthy
(21:54) person yeah so good question we if you have this great one two and three tears right I was prepared to a bridge where if that bridge is blowing up we’re not gonna that’s surgical right you have to connect it right right people’s injuries so if you’re six months out so if you’re listening to this and you’re six months out with an injury and you’re over 40 years of age you’re probably not going to heal on your own how many athletic guys like you or I you know I’m gonna be 55 coming up right there’s no way that
(22:23) I’m not gonna have some injuries from all the stupid ass stuff of them can I say ass on this podcast sorry oh absolutely yeah you just can’t say stupid that’s nothing there’s gonna be something I mean my other shoulder’s hurting now I got to get my other shoulder injected my thumb from mountain biking there’s always so you you don’t have to suffer and I’m not saying this like is a cure-all but it definitely helps people if it didn’t you know we would have been ran out of town
(22:51) a long time ago with what we do absolutely yeah and and I appreciate you bringing up the point that there there may be some bad players out there because every time something new comes up you know we we get into you know they’re just people that jump into it as a money grab uh you know I mean I think we might be seeing that with things like maybe psychedelics or or you know medical marijuana or or you know now it’s now it’s this uh now it’s uh stem cell kind of stuff so is there any so you mentioned you have a criteria is
(23:20) there anything that people should look for when they’re trying to find somebody to to do this I mean obviously reach out to you but yeah yeah you know what I think this is what I I know they better use ultrasound guidance or some type of CRM intervention whether you know some people use anesthesiologists but they better have Imaging and if they don’t that’s the number one signal that they don’t know what they’re doing because we were told years ago you inject this and these have these these cells when we
(23:47) used to use cellular therapy right they have a native intelligence to find the inflammation and you’re all good that was a crock of baloney they don’t yeah to a certain extent they do right but if your body is fully inflamed and you inject the knee that hasn’t made intelligence to go where that inflammation is so you really want to get right into the tissue um and the way to do that is throughout your sound guidance that’s really the other thing also um you know are they would I guess you want to find someone that’s been
(24:18) referred right always and you want to talk to your friends family and they’ve had a good experience because I think um when it comes to labs and this is where the fdas crack down they want to make sure these labs are clean there are people doctors that have that are working out of the garage right now all over the country and I know I get called I’ll go up on his brother just called me as a brother-in-law in Texas who has a lab in his garage and wanted to sell me product and it’s like uh our the lab I
(24:46) use in uh Florida just the FDA came in and audited him about three months ago and they passed with flying colors it was a strenuous audit so you want to make sure that you know the lab has been vetted out and the dog here’s the other one that the doctor or nurse practitioner has been to the lab I’ve traveled to the lab four different times I’ve seen what they’re doing I’ve gotten tours I’ve seen different assays or results from the product and I know what we’re putting in people is clean it’s
(25:15) effective and I mean let’s face it I put it myself my family my dad everyone I know I want to make sure it’s the best that we can find yeah that’s that’s a that’s that’s really helpful because it when we’re going out there we want to make sure we’re going after the right sources and we’re finding the people that are right to do it and right and so you you use it on yourself is there kind of any indication that you have for yourself is it is it just like oh I hurt my my uh my my shoulder again I’m gonna
(25:42) just do a shot or how do you how do you know when and you’re gonna put it in I I have to pay for this too right I mean a little bit of a deal but um when I’m working out I know I mean I was using a kettleball today in the gym and this thumb this thumb’s broken ligament from mountain bike I know it it’s been two or three years and I don’t know like anything you put it off and I need to get my thumb done and what else um the shoulder too so you know you just listen to your body and it keeps it’s
(26:14) not going away and it’s been months time to get it done yeah that’s that’s helpful and so you talk about inflate inflammation um and and I know it we you know that’s a word we use a lot and and I know that you know we have a I think a lot of people have a feeling of what they think it means but can you give us like a a brief uh rundown of of what inflammation is what causes it and aside from injuries yeah yeah I mean injuries gonna be an acute inflammatory response if I punch them around we get blood flow and
(26:44) all these things flood to it to heal but a chronic inflammatory response is going to come from a a physical chemical and emotional stressor that your body hasn’t adapted to properly right so you really have to look at what that means where where is the source and um like for example a chemical stressor could be gluten dairy soy eggs so when you come in our office to work with the nurse practitioners we want to do uh food sensitivity food allergen panel we want to know what foods you’re sensitive to that’ll take that that chemical
(27:15) stressor out um an emotional stressor right I think you could have problems I’m just throwing it whatever pops in my brain you’re going through a divorce God forbid or your kid got kicked out of school your boss is a jerk and you’re constantly stressed out um you have chronic anxiety chronic alcoholism whatever that is these are physical chemical even leads to emotional stressors that cause your body to be in a fight or flight response and it creates chemicals that um that release these Messengers so let’s go
(27:48) let’s go back a little bit deeper I don’t want to go too deep but if you have extra body fat especially belly fat um your body is releasing interleukin-6 and tumor in a Crossing factor and what these are are chemical Messengers to say hey let’s get rid of this this isn’t normal and what it does is it causes immune suppression it can lead to cancer it can lead to all these other problems so if we go back a little bit when covid came out right the dreaded c word watch out who died of covet people with
(28:18) comorbidities right 82 years old and above it was dangerous for them because they were their immune systems were suppressed so the more chronic inflammation you have from all these diseases or food sensitivities or just your General Health it creates an expression a suppressed immune system and everything goes south from there so we want to help that awesome excellent so so it’s really chemical so Chron uh chronic inflammatory responses due to chemical emotional or physical really inflammation and those could cause by
(28:50) yeah stress so if people are full of anxiety so the activities to help do that and I know that Utah so part of what you do as well to uh uh uh well I won’t I won’t lead on that but how do you uh how do you aside from the uh stem cells and and the ambiotic fluids yeah how do you treat the inflammation on on those levels on on a on a larger scale so I think you have to get to the root cause of the problem everyone’s is an individual right and this is where diets fail our health coaches we prod ourselves on looking at that person as a
(29:24) human being so there’s for the most part there’s four factors right there’s exercise and there’s food people go back and forth over what’s more important um and then there’s sleep and then there’s emotional connections with people around you so food for us is we have a way of eating for 60 days the average person loses 20 to 40 pounds they drop weight very quickly very efficiently but we teach them how to eat real food one of the problems with you talk about money grab right these diets
(29:55) that are out there they’re going to inject you with like a medication right or okay and you’re going to lose weight it was epic right that’s the new one you’re gonna lose weight the studies all showing but it’s like driving a taking a train to the middle of the desert and it drops you off and then what washers or whatever they want you to buy their pre-packaged meals afterwards which aren’t real food so we want to teach people that the more packaging you open packages you open the more plastic the
(30:27) more this the more you know this the being a healthy guy the more if you have more than three to five ingredients these are all Franken Foods we call it Franken food right minimize that people that you know you shouldn’t be eating Whole Foods low glycemic index foods for 60 days we have people fast and we get we teach them how to find to correct their habits and their inflammatory load goes down their weight goes down and then we give them long-term ways to keep it off yeah well I’m so I’m so glad you you said that at the
(31:03) beginning that you look at every person as a human being as an individual because this is a this is a subject that hits close to home for me I have a lot of I have loved ones who are dealing with both sides of the issue of you know obesity and I have loved ones who are dealing with uh with it with food disorders with eating disorders yeah on the other side and a lot of that is fed by this diet culture with like that and and to say that diets don’t work I’d love to hear I mean because you’re talking about Whole Foods and and
(31:32) teaching people how to build a healthy relationship with food yeah can you dive a little bit more into why diets don’t work and and what the psychology is there yeah I think you know counting calories right um who’s going to do that long term who really is going to do that it doesn’t make any sense um eating we all know low fat that was that was a scam um you know I think what it comes down to is we as a especially as a culture in the United States 70 percent of us are overweight because when we were raised
(32:03) and I was raised the same way loving mom she would give me we never had an empty stomach right right wake up in the morning we have cereal Mary before we go to school 10 15 she packed a snack for me noon lunch 2 15 I’d come home from school have another snack five o’clock have dinner and have ice cream before I went to bed and human beings are not made to have a full stomach we’re made those hunger pains are actually a good thing right we’re made to to travel for our next meal eat a lot of food travel
(32:36) to our next Meal which is why intermittent fasting works really well you don’t want to have a full digestive tract all the time so and I think we don’t have everybody intermittent fast by the way right some people have two diabetics intermittent fast some people need more protein in the morning some people need more carbs before they work out it’s you got to figure you out and I don’t think we’re ever taught how to do it and we are in a society where their anxiety fear-based and a lot of people
(33:07) don’t sleep well they wake up tired and they spend the day eating because it makes them feel good and they pack on you know five ten pounds every year and next thing you know they’re 50 pounds overweight when they hit their mid 50s yeah yeah and so when you’re when you’re when when do people come to you for for that kind of weight loss uh treatment is it is it when they have a few extra pounds is it when they’re they’ve gone really overboard what does that look like and what who are you looking for on
(33:38) that you you don’t see people are looking for 10 pound weight loss ever rarely um again we have people that are serious like they’re they’re lost and um you know it’s it’s a commitment it’s three months right and I always like our plan is 2500 so it’s out of pocket and there’s financing for it um the funny thing is Adam about 70 of our people are virtual we see them from all over the country which is kind of neat we have some really big people and um they lose weight quickly but the
(34:13) great thing is they get energy back quickly I just heard a story at one of our team meetings we had a guy that lost he broke our record 20 pounds in the first week and his wife was in this the second health coach meeting she was so excited because on day three he was cleaning out the garage so you know talk about information once that your body changes super fast and it wants to heal this guy had inflammation that dropped like almost instantly was ready to Take On The World um like in three days so it’s fun to see
(34:45) people change rapidly yeah it’s so true I’ve I mean I found that as myself and right now like I’m not I’m not eating the kind of healthy diets that I was eating when I was a triathlete I mean as far as Whole Foods and all kind of stuff I’m I’m definitely snacking I’m doing all the wrong things but but it has a great it’s a good uh way to distinguish or at least to shows the the opposite sides of it because I remember how good I was feeling when I was eating like you know really really healthy
(35:14) Whole Foods and building that relationship and so I think it’s a powerful tool that you know if you’re built if you’re helping people to build a healthy relationship with food yeah so much more powerful than saying oh yeah yeah just calorie count here’s the math problem that you need to do that doesn’t work I mean yeah even even with things like it there’s just it has to be a reason behind it and it just it can’t be an unhealthy reason uh so you have to know you right yeah um I think Monday Tuesday Wednesday
(35:43) Thursday I really do my best best to avoid eating sweets even though I do I had a cookie at lunch I’m not perfect by any means but I make it a concerted effort to be good those days and on the weekends I’ll tend to do what I want but I’m also working out six days a week and I’ve kept muscle on and I do you know a lot of that um but that being said it’s easy for me to be pulled towards the ice cream and every it’s it’s a drug right absolutely yeah it’s never ending never well yeah
(36:15) yeah and so you you are a fit guys so you you you’re very active and you you call yourself kind of a recovering triathlete that’s right yeah I think I I um yeah so uh I too I mean I used to dabble in Triathlon a little bit no but uh how uh so what is that recovering triathlete mean to you where’s Triathlon living your life at this point you know my former wife and I we owned two triathlons we own pumpkin man in Maine which is a half Ironman oh yeah yeah and there was we had a thousand people for 10 years once a weekend would come in do
(36:50) the Sprint and the half um we also own Cedar Summit which if you’re in the Northeast you know it’s a it’s a swim and then it’s a 92 mile bike ride in New Hampshire to the base of Mount Washington and then they run up tuckermans are being trailed to the summit that was crazy that we didn’t kill anybody doing that um so that was kind of you know I directed races and there was actually one year where I was a director I I had I let the blow horn go off and I jumped in the water and started racing so I was
(37:17) director um stupid uh so it doesn’t end too well for me but I think Logistics must have been horrible on that one that’s got to be tough um but yeah so I think that um recovering really you know I get to a point where I was competitive and I I got myself a coach and you know I I wasn’t like Pro level I’m fast twitch muscle guy I played football in college I wasn’t one of these distance Runners but I you know want to see what I could do and um you know I ended up winning a few Sprint tries to 300 400 people and
(37:53) that usat All-American status you’re like the top one percent of your age groups like yeah right right right right that and a bag of chips will get you nothing and right I’m doing 14 hours of training a week I had like no body fat I’m eating like crazy I probably wasn’t super healthy I get out of bed I could barely walk and um and then after my divorce I said that’s it I remember I I ran I ran a Sprint I was actually winning in Worcester Mass with a small race and I gave up as and this guy ran by me and it
(38:26) was the first time ever that’s not a good point no feeling whatsoever in fact having weird feelings even thinking about that right now um yeah what was the end for me so this summer I am doing another one I’m gonna do a Sprint first time in 10 years and wow 30 pounds heavier than when I used to race I’m 208 right now and uh I uh I used to run like six minutes off the bike and I just ran an eight third two miles eight thirty pace and it was deadly I thought I was going to pass out so uh you know I’m not used
(39:01) to doing those those hard runs um yeah we’ll see what happens I can relate to a lot of what you’re saying there too because I I I stopped competing right about covid because I I had the it became a bit of an obsession for me I mean I I achieved the goal that I wanted to achieve you know yeah so that was my goal yeah did I tell you about that enough running joke yes running joke um yeah um but yeah so I I achieved what I wanted to achieve in it and and I kept going and I realized I kind of had those same moments when I was when I was
(39:37) competing in in Wisconsin and then Arizona where it was just like they the extra pep in my step wasn’t there as much as it was it was like what am I doing this for now and and I’m I’m hurting when I you know wake up I’m I’m I’m eating really healthy but I’m also burning a lot I mean it seems like there’s a balance there and and and trying to find that balance so um uh so I I’m really excited to hear where that where this new part of the journey takes you and Triathlon and
(40:04) seeing if it’s uh if it you know if you get that Competitive Edge back yeah you know I think if you don’t have a purpose and if your purpose is you know what are you doing in the sport if it’s like your only purpose is to cross the finish line you know it’s it’s there’s has to be other things so I ended up marrying a new wonderful lady and um you kind of go in a different direction and you know we the business kind of takes over but we’re still both of us are into being healthy and fit and
(40:35) uh it’s just not that competitive thing anymore and uh it’s it’s cool you know I think that you go through phases in your life right and uh maybe you mellow out a little bit I don’t want to admit that but I think maybe in your 50s you might not be so right yeah yeah see yeah so what would you want people to know about being fit over 50 how how what what what’s different what what do you feel is is important about that you know I think a big thing is listen to your body bio feedback right if
(41:08) you’re hurting don’t feel like you have to go be guilted into doing a workout that day um I think a big thing is I never want to do a lifting workout back to back where I’m using those you know where I’m beating those muscles up high intensity interval training back to back I want to give myself 48 hours in between and really find a couple of good cardio activities that you like that I mean I’m very fortunate I love to mountain bike uh and I’ve started to walk at them I’ve never walked before I was like why walk
(41:37) when I can run and I find my dog and I go in the woods for an hour and 15 minutes I put a podcast on I listen to people like you and it’s it’s pretty good you keep your pulse rate around 95 98 and there’s actually studies to show that that’s super beneficial as you get older right versus jacking it up 150 160.
(41:59) I do think that you have to wait train as you get older you lose muscle strength extremely quickly it’s toxic you need to have that upper body muscle I have friends that are cyclists and all they do is cycle they love their group rides and they couldn’t do 15 push-ups right so I want to be able to do this is my thing I want to be able to do 50 push-ups to form I want to be able to do 12 dead hang pull-ups to form and I want to be able to go out and run six miles maybe seven and not feel like I’m dead to the world and I also wanna like I had
(42:29) a GoPro the other day it was a professional mountain biker guy and I went with him and he was kicking my butt and I was able to ride with him for an hour and um I want to be able to experience you know all these activities in life where I can just go do them right good enough to just call me up for example again getting back to go abundance Mike Orlando on if he’s listening if anyone knows him but he has a house in Vermont he has a ski resort ski slopes in his backyard he called me up after a 30 inch snowstorm two months
(43:01) ago in Vermont I live in New Hampshire he said come on up he had a rope toe I figured it’d be fun his rope toe broke we had to climb the mountain and three feet of snow with snowshoes to get one run in and um you know I was able to do it and I hope to be able to do that until someday I dropped dead doing it I don’t know yeah so what what does that look like as far as because we talked we’re talking about longevity and I know that there’s a lot of discussion about people living to you know Way Beyond 100
(43:29) 120 130. where are your feelings on that or do we have the medicines do we have the the the the food dialed in what does it look like yeah you know I think to go back to what I for you gotta exercise you got to eat you gotta have good relationships you gotta sleep well um these regenerative biologics you know I do an infusion once or twice a year I think that makes a big difference um but I think you really have to just be aware of of being happy do what you love and and again getting back to purpose if you don’t have purpose you have nothing and
(44:08) for a lot of people that’s where that anxiousness comes in right um we you know the more if you don’t have a purpose then your your brain doesn’t know what to do with the day what’s ahead of you you become anxious and I always say being anxious you may have heard this before um it’s like having your foot on the gas pedal of your car pegged right yeah brain can’t handle that and it’s going to break down and that’s depression right so depression is just anxiety for too long and so I think the biggest thing is you
(44:38) have to keep your brain chemistry proper and there’s many factors that come into that and I think you know if it wasn’t for for movement and exercise as you know my meditative state that I I don’t meditate that much but I think that going out for a walk is meditative I think mountain biking is meditative paddle boarding is meditative you you go through this balance and um you know no just do what you love right and uh that’s what it comes down to so do what you love and and Longevity will really take care of itself that’s
(45:10) what I’m hearing well you also get nature nurture right yeah you just got handed the wrong genes and that stinks um but they say that the best this is the one thing that we know if you the people that are the lightest tend to live the longest did you know that that’s one of the lightest you look at underweight you live longest so don’t yeah that goes bad we don’t want to create anorexic bulimic people right but a little bit underweight that’s one of the things they’ve proven and also if
(45:40) you’re married you live longer than if you’re not so the single people die the quickest ah so I don’t know get mad I guess the question is get the answers get married and don’t eat too much which is very difficult because oh yeah it is yeah well I guess yeah fit uh the important part of that I think is is just fit more fit more life into the years you have that’s the that’s the bottom line and and um and so what’s uh what about what about so you know talking about the ambiotic fluids the
(46:13) the different types of regenerative medicine things like that where do supplements fit in you know there’s a lot of supplements out there yeah so I think there’s a couple things I take magnesium every morning because I know that magnesium is deficient in our either soil for sure do I do that um I take a multi-mineral every couple days just to make sure I’m getting my minerals I don’t eat salad and fruits like I probably should every day um I I should had a salad lunch right um so I think that that’s really important
(46:42) we do a full metabolic blood panel we look at five pages of blood work you can’t get that from your doctor unless you have a disease because the insurance companies cover it and what I’m getting at with that is that the blood reveals deficiencies that you may want to supplement for and then you do another test to see where you’re at so I think that I’ve had people come in Adam with 30.
(47:05) my record was 38 supplements and you gotta remember when you take a supplement your body has to react to it right and your immune system has to react to it so just because it’s it’s natural doesn’t mean it’s it’s safe I mean snake venom is natural right sure so I think that one of the things we do is back off on the supplements and we try to nail down you know specifics so in New England from October to April the sun is too low to get vitamin D you better be supplementing vitamin D3 whatever it is two to five IU thousand
(47:39) IUS a day in the winter perfect example right so I think everybody’s different and you got to do what’s best for you yeah and um so so looking at the supplements it’s just it’s I I like the idea of the blood panel so how frequently should we do it be should we be doing that I think once a year but once what happens is because we’re tied into the insurance companies telling us what to do yeah they are dictated by the panels you run are dictated by the insurance company and they’re garbage a CBC isn’t worth the
(48:12) paper it’s written on it’s disease it’s looking at diseases after they’ve already showed up so we want to look at inflammatory markers ahead of time that you’re not going to get and we want to look at insulin what’s where’s your what’s your where’s your insulin things like homocysteine and C-reactive protein and hemoglobin A1c your testosterone these are things that you can’t get unless you reach into your pocket and pay for it yeah this is yeah this is so I I mean this is so valuable and it’s so
(48:38) unfortunate too in a lot of ways and I don’t I mean maybe I’m getting too far down the political side bit but all of that you know insurance covers the the reactive stuff you know surgeries you know things after the the sickness has happened right but this stuff that you’re doing you know this important work of of preventative medicine of trying to live our healthiest lives it isn’t it’s out of pocket so it’s it’s exclusive and that’s you know that’s uh I mean that’s I think that’s a it’s
(49:04) unfortunate but it’s also an opportunity I mean for people to invest in their health I believe yeah that’s huge and you know politically we’re creating what it does he creates a divide the housing and it’s really sad I hate the fact we have someone that we can’t help because they can’t afford it even though we have financing it’s horrible but if you’re gonna have a heart attack a stroke an aneurysm a broken bone the best place to have it is on American soil for acute problems when it comes to chronicity
(49:30) they have no idea because drugs don’t fix chronicity and doctors aren’t trained which is where my entrepreneurial model comes in and if they could help people with chronicity I wouldn’t be sitting here in front of you doing what I do yeah because they’re going to inject a corticosteroid into a joint when the purified amniotic fluid if they did that instead they would never inject cortisone ever again but it’s not covered by insurance so they inject cortisone most of the time it doesn’t work within two weeks and now
(50:01) they’re surgical yeah yeah wow yeah so so I mean I mean and I think just in order to live that Abundant Life too we have to look at preventative which means we just have to you know for for the cost even though it is costly it’s like just look into I mean one of the best investments you can make is into your own health you know into the food that you’re putting in your body into the into the types of of medicine you’re you’re you’re using and and all of that so um so that’s really important and
(50:31) then what you know you you’d post it on on on go Bunnings the other day and I thought it was really powerful because there’s a there’s a there’s a big push on testosterone right now right and there’s we’re hearing a lot on on like you know it’s making us feel so good you know I need to get my testosterone levels up to a thousand or higher yeah and you you posted a little Contra uh you know uh contrarian on that so I’d love to hear your thoughts on where we’re at with testosterone yeah I’m
(50:57) going to anti testosterone I’m anti not working on again the physical chemical and emotional stressors right that are in your life get those in Balance um you know spend time in the gym do the right things get muscle mass on you um and do the right things that will increase your testosterone naturally and there’s many ways to do it and I also know that testosterone is a is a marker and genetically depending on where you’re from where your parents are from where your grandparents are from your testosterone might be naturally higher
(51:27) so it’s like your foot right an adult male’s nine there’s professional athletes with nine size nine shoes and then there’s size 14 they’re still just as good so my testosterone was was measured at 490 and my free was 10 right in the middle if I went to a clinic they’d say oh we want you at six seven hundred here’s the problem you’re on it for life don’t think for a second when you get off of it you’re not going to have two to three horrible months after taking exogenous testosterone so personally I
(51:57) want to make sure that everything’s working well from a natural standpoint and if I stay fit and I say disease free and I stay happy for the most part I’m not going to need this until I don’t know maybe 74.5 this is you’re like this I was on a plane coming back from Coda when my former wife went to the Iron Man World Championships I was sitting next to a 73 year old orthopedic surgeon who came in first in the 70 to 74 year old age group he was number one 12 hours and 10 minutes right this dude would would kick most people’s
(52:35) butts right he’s kept himself strong you think he needs testosterone no but right this facts show that after 74 75 76 there is a major Decline and yeah I mean this said whatever that decline is for you naturally then it’s time to look into it but make sure you’ve done your best before that that’s helpful I I appreciate that that thought because we don’t want to jump into things without without getting fully informed on on where we’re going into those so um so I can’t let you go before uh we
(53:06) talk about because we’re offline before we got on the call you you talked about uh some of the panic attacks you’ve you’ve experienced in in uh in Triathlon I love to hear that story because I am a victim of tremendous panic attacks in the water and and I’d love to hear how you got through it yeah so so how about the one I was going to tell you about the panic attack in the water um Half Ironman Switzerland the water temp is 51 degrees overhead there’s it’s a crazy thing it’s like the NFL hits the opening season
(53:37) when you go to Europe and you race and you’re I’ve raced a bunch of races over there it’s different than America these guys take it serious and um I wasn’t super experienced I didn’t get my face in the water long enough before and I get out in the water with turning water it’s cold it’s 51.
(53:53) it’s cold right you’re seeing your breath and yeah we the gun goes off the cannon boom goes off and our eight we go off they had it split where it might have been a mass start but I’m swimming and all of a sudden you know that feeling of you’re not quite there yeah it was about two minutes in I’m like I can’t keep my face in this water I’m I’m hyperventilating and I said I’m gonna have to tread water I gotta get my face out and as soon as I came up I felt the ground in the Middle lake there was a sand bar in the middle
(54:25) of Lake Zurich and I wasn’t alone I looked around me and there’s like a mass Exodus of guys my my age all walking together like I would say three quarters of the people struggled at the same exact time waste deep water on a sandbar with helicopters overhead all of us having anxiety at the same time so I think the moral of the story is when your heart starts pounding you’re not alone how’s that yeah that that is helpful and that’s it’s so important too you’re not alone when you have anxiety there are 40
(54:56) 30 million people at least and that was pretty Covenant numbers that have anxiety anxiety attacks and and in a triathlon that number is probably you know closer to 80 percent of people including uh uh a lot of the athletes it’s a lot yeah but when you can rise above when you go through it you’re pushing beyond your comfort zone yeah look at the side Strokes for yeah right get your breath back yeah yeah it’s and it’s not permanent it doesn’t last forever it’s it’s not permanent just breathe so right
(55:28) um and what uh so you’ve been you’ve done a lot of Adventures you’re you’re doing a lot in this world you’re growing a successful business what’s the next adventure for Dr Jeff Donatello well we got we got you know the bucket list thing I was just listening to that podcast with Travis Bell is that his name yeah yeah yeah and he was talking about the year we always plan out the year ahead um you know it’s I have lots I could go on and on and on I got the short the short list is we got
(55:56) a got you a bunch of GoPros coming in we got to climb up uh this summer we’re gonna boogie board down a river class five River in Maine and then climb Katahdin which is the end of the Appalachian Trail so that’s kind of the local one but um you know I think going to Southeast Asia is someplace I haven’t been I really want to hit that I want to go surfing in Bali how’s that if you gotta yeah going out there I this is kind of embarrassing I’ve been surfing in New Hampshire for my whole life since
(56:22) I was young and I’ve never really been barreled in a tube ever because we just don’t have them around here right that’s one of my things I um I’d like to do that how’s that if you’re gonna that’s that’s a great that’s a great bucket list item and I might add that to mine I’m gonna steal that from you because I’ve never been barreled either I grew up in Southern California and I surfed and I never been barreled I know all you have to do I’ve been in Hawaii nine times I was just yesterday and when
(56:48) I do reef below me which it’s probably four or five foot below me I’m in my mind I’m like no no no no I’m not yeah into that local people just you know they just bounce off of it you know yeah that’s so true yeah um yeah so I and and where can people yeah where can people find you what where you know people want to get a hold of you they where can people find you yeah well first of all thank you if you if you’ve listened to me this long and you’re back to the end of this podcast center for well.com
(57:21) um if you if you Google Jeff Donatello you I’m very happy to say you won’t see a mug shot so that’s great but Center forwell.com if you or someone you know or love um suffers from weight gain and they’re they’re really stuck uh Universal programs um if you go online you can talk to one of our Consultants they do a free consult and um if you are looking for joint dysfunction help um you know the regenerative medicine we do that too so yeah it’s all there that’s excellent thank you thank you so
(57:50) much and and and you’re also a speaker you’re speaking on the circuit so you’re going out you speak to people you’re on a lot of podcasts you um any plans to write a book or anything like that or an additional book that in addition to the ones well I get a book um exercise with oxygen therapy a long time ago um that’s another whole topic we don’t have to go there but um I don’t have any desire right now to do that maybe down the road but not right now oh excellent wallet well I know you’re
(58:19) you’ve been published you have something like 100 articles out there on on lifestyle and all sorts of things so um so yeah look up uh look up Jeff Dr Jeff donatello.com and Center for well.com if you want to get help on that um Jeff thanks for being here man this was awesome I can’t wait to see what your next event where your next Adventures take you all right my pleasure thanks Adam all right thanks see you later everybody hey everyone Thanks for tuning in to the flow over fear podcast if you’d like to learn more
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