Stepping Into Your Zone of Genius With Niomi Hurley

[adam_hill]: hello everyone and thank you for joining
us i have a great guest today her

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[adam_hill]: name is naomi higgs and she is
joining us from western australia so she’s about

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[adam_hill]: a day ahead so she can see
future so how is the future is everything

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[adam_hill]: bright down there

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[niomi_hurley]: yeats brad yeah

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[adam_hill]: okay good good good to hear that
we have we have bright things ahead well

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[adam_hill]: naomi is an organizational psychologist and clinical
hypnotherapist she spent many years in the corporate

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[adam_hill]: world working in h r and safe
management roles before completing a degree in psychology

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[adam_hill]: and getting a diploma level qualifications in
leadership and management her passion for personal growth

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[adam_hill]: and the power of subconscious mind then
saw her continue her learning journey to become

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[adam_hill]: a clinical hypnotherapist at this point she
took a leap to leave her corporate day

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[adam_hill]: job to rise above that fear to
get into that just start her own business

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[adam_hill]: get up and grow consulting and it
takes a lot of courage to take that

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[adam_hill]: leap and to take that leap of
faith on yourself naomi’s mission she is a

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[adam_hill]: woman on a mission and her mission
to spark curiosity awareness and growth in business

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[adam_hill]: and individuals that empowers them to move
towards self actualization and achieve more than they

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[adam_hill]: believed was previously possible a little to
them she helps businesses and individuals to connect

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[adam_hill]: better to themselves and their individual capabilities
igniting their energy and creating lasting beneficial change

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[adam_hill]: naomi has a une approach to organizational
psychology mind set growth and healing that helps

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[adam_hill]: us helps improve areas within people’s lives
or business she runs get up and grow

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[adam_hill]: consulting which provide so a full range
of organizational psychology strategies h r culture safety

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[adam_hill]: change management that list goes on and
on i’m so glad you’ve joined us today

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[adam_hill]: and i ome it’s great to have
you here think

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[niomi_hurley]: it’s wonderful to be here adam thank
you for the opportunity it’s always great catching

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[niomi_hurley]: up with you and working with you

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[adam_hill]: absolutely well we’ve we’ve been on we’ve
been on multiple sides of the camera many

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[adam_hill]: times and and and from you know
it’s it’s an amazing piece of technology where

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[adam_hill]: we can actually see other from opposite
ends of the world and share this time

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[adam_hill]: together many many times though we’ve never
met in person i hope to remedy that

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[adam_hill]: one day

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[niomi_hurley]: yes

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[adam_hill]: but but the first time that we
met was was actually a ver well tony

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[adam_hill]: robins event even in the midst of
covid we were both a business mastery we

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[adam_hill]: both shared a team we were on
the same team there where we you know

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[adam_hill]: set up a charitable foundation and we
were able to raise some funds for some

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[adam_hill]: worthy causes but the key thing was
i remember at that point that you were

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[adam_hill]: still you know employed you were still
working for the corporate in the corporate world

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[adam_hill]: and i remember at that time you
know we got to know each other pretty

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[adam_hill]: well you are you were dreaming up
this idea of get up and grow consulting

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[adam_hill]: that would you know that you wanted
to start that you wanted to help people

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[adam_hill]: in a certain way and as i
mentioned before it takes a lot of courage

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[adam_hill]: to make that leap so can you
can you give us a little back story

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[adam_hill]: on how how your how your career
shaped you and and how and how you

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[adam_hill]: grew up how how your career shaped
you and how you got into consulting

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[niomi_hurley]: yeah so you might have seen i
actually still breathe in when i think of

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[niomi_hurley]: that because it was it’s something you
feel through your whole body when you make

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[niomi_hurley]: decisions like that and

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[niomi_hurley]: i i had established a really successful
career in the corporate world i was he

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[niomi_hurley]: and safety manager for quite a large
transport company i established credibility with all of

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[niomi_hurley]: the clients within the company was leading
a really two really great teams i hate

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[niomi_hurley]: your own safety

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[niomi_hurley]: and had even recruited them with limited
skills but for their personality you know for

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[niomi_hurley]: their attributes and their value so i’ve
actually been able to help mentor them and

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[niomi_hurley]: get them into a place where they
were performing really well and it just kind

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[niomi_hurley]: of came to me and said now
you could do this on a grander scale

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[niomi_hurley]: it’s something you know you talk about
being in a state of excellence and in

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[niomi_hurley]: that zone

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[niomi_hurley]: of excellence and i was there i

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[adam_hill]: yeah

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[niomi_hurley]: was really good at what i did
and i was now on right

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[adam_hill]: it

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[niomi_hurley]: but helping people and growing people

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[adam_hill]: oh

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[niomi_hurley]: sort of was a level

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[adam_hill]: yeah

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[niomi_hurley]: up into my zona genius and

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[adam_hill]: hm

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[niomi_hurley]: when you’re in your zona genius you
just feel different you know you’re feeling joy

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[niomi_hurley]: every time it’s not like you’re working
your there

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[adam_hill]: right

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[niomi_hurley]: so i thought

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[adam_hill]: oh

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[niomi_hurley]: i really needed to do that for
myself and then also flow on to my

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[niomi_hurley]: family and my friends and all of
my other relationships and the people that i

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[niomi_hurley]: help and although it was a really
big leap i feel like would have been

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[niomi_hurley]: doing a disservice to my purpose of
being here if i didn’t do it o

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[adam_hill]: sure

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[niomi_hurley]: programs like business mastery and unleashed the
power within another training i did really prepared

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[niomi_hurley]: me for that and gave me you
know that ability to step into the fear

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[niomi_hurley]: because i wasn’t overcoming it it’s every
even in a

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[niomi_hurley]: business

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[niomi_hurley]: when you’re running a business whether it’s
large or small there’s fear all along the

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[niomi_hurley]: way right you’re always experiencing it but
it’s actually being able to step into it

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[niomi_hurley]: and kind of embrace it

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[adam_hill]: well i’m glad you say that because
that’s something we try to focus on here

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[adam_hill]: is that you never overcome fear and
everybody talks about you know that’s the goal

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[adam_hill]: overcoming fear or you know getting getting
over your fears or don’t let fear stand

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[adam_hill]: in your way but but the reality
is it’s always with us and if we’re

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[adam_hill]: waiting for that time where fear is
going to not be there any more then

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[adam_hill]: we’re going to be waiting forever and
i think that’s where a lot of people

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[adam_hill]: get stuck as they don’t realize that
the fear is fear is there for them

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[adam_hill]: so fear was there with you when
you made

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[niomi_hurley]: m

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[adam_hill]: that that leap but you you leaped
anyway you went anyway and how was that

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[adam_hill]: how how was that did that uh
you know did the fear change at all

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[adam_hill]: did you did you experience it in
a different way

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[niomi_hurley]: yeah i think if one word to
say how that was was uncomfortable if i’m

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[niomi_hurley]: being honest like just being

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[adam_hill]: sure

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[niomi_hurley]: in this uncomfortable

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[adam_hill]: uh

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[niomi_hurley]: space not having the security

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[adam_hill]: ah

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[niomi_hurley]: of an income for starters you also
that sense of purpose like here i was

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[niomi_hurley]: knowing for what i did and now
i just work so no one to say

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[niomi_hurley]: you’ve done a great job you’re

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[niomi_hurley]: awesome you know

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[niomi_hurley]: so it was really uncomfortable

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[adam_hill]: right

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[niomi_hurley]: but part of the joy that i’ve
received from it is moving through that because

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[niomi_hurley]: that’s just showing

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[niomi_hurley]: am and how much capability i have
so it every day along this journey and

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[niomi_hurley]: i was speaking with some other business
owners in a group where i yesterday actually

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[niomi_hurley]: but it’s actually that part that actually
then also gives us what we need to

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[niomi_hurley]: serve our clients because we have a
better understanding of them we’re not know some

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[niomi_hurley]: of our clients might see us especially
when we’re on the high level of what

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[niomi_hurley]: we’re doing and

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[adam_hill]: hm

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[niomi_hurley]: there a god or you know how
do they do this but

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[adam_hill]: yeah

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[niomi_hurley]: we do it just like everyone else
we come in

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[adam_hill]: yeah

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[niomi_hurley]: and we

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[adam_hill]: so

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[niomi_hurley]: sorry

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[adam_hill]: so the clients being able to see
us on our level that’s

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[niomi_hurley]: yes

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[adam_hill]: i love that because yeah that that’s
powerful because they that that gives it a

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[adam_hill]: sense of of you know relatability and
that’s what we want to serve i’ve heard

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[adam_hill]: before that we’re we’re all positioned to
serve the people that we once were or

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[adam_hill]: that we are

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[niomi_hurley]: yeah

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[adam_hill]: and so serving those people that that’s
an excellent way of putting it

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[niomi_hurley]: yeah yeah and i think when you
when

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[adam_hill]: yeah

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[niomi_hurley]: you come into that space i mean
acknowledging that fear is helpful fear is there

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[niomi_hurley]: to help us it

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[adam_hill]: hm

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[niomi_hurley]: was to help us in our primitive
days of identifying threats and then engaging in

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[niomi_hurley]: them and a little bit of fear
is actually help helpful for us now and

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[niomi_hurley]: it’s health to feel that it gets
the body pumping it gets everything going and

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[niomi_hurley]: inspires you to go forward but it’s
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[adam_hill]: hm

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[niomi_hurley]: letting yourself be overcome by that fear
that’s when it becomes unhelpful that’s when

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[adam_hill]: yeah

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[niomi_hurley]: there’s so many people out there with
strategies to help you actually just give you

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[niomi_hurley]: enough of that boost to go right
i’m going to step into the unknown because

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[niomi_hurley]: let’s face it that’s probably the biggest
fear and just trust that you know if

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[niomi_hurley]: i made this decision from my head
and my body and my heart and it

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[niomi_hurley]: feels right then that’s what i need
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[adam_hill]: it’s having that trust in yourself and
having your trust in your capabilities in that

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[adam_hill]: zone of genius and the zone of
excellence as you say and i really that

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[adam_hill]: that stuck out to me how do
you how do you find how does how

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[adam_hill]: how did you find your zone of
excellence and how how do you think others

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[adam_hill]: would find their zone of excellence and

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[niomi_hurley]: yeah

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[adam_hill]: how could they apply it to their
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[niomi_hurley]: well i think a one zone of
excellence comes when your inner space where you’re

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[niomi_hurley]: really capable but the downside to the
zone of

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[niomi_hurley]: excellence is

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[niomi_hurley]: it doesn’t actually light the fire in
your belly now at some time it did

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[niomi_hurley]: because that’s what drove you to get
into there and so for me safety in

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[niomi_hurley]: h r was always a passion of
mine and helping people

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[niomi_hurley]: i was doing major investigations for track
and trail or roll over and i was

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[niomi_hurley]: really good out was presenting to clients
really good at it i got to a

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[niomi_hurley]: point where actually realized at i was
i could do it with my ice cost

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[niomi_hurley]: right so you’re at your zone

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[niomi_hurley]: of excellence

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[niomi_hurley]: stepping into the zone of genius means
that when you’re doing whatever you’re doing you’ve

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[niomi_hurley]: constantly got a smile in your face
because that’s where

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[niomi_hurley]: you meant to be

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[adam_hill]: m i got you so there’s a
distinction between that zone of excellence and the

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[adam_hill]: zone of genius the zone of excellence
is almost like you’ve reached where you you’ve

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[adam_hill]: reached the point at which you’re bored
or our you’re doing something that that you

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[adam_hill]: know you’ve your max your max capabilities
or where your our max allowance but your

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[adam_hill]: your zone of genius is where that’s
what lights your fire that’s what people should

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[adam_hill]: be searching for is that

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[niomi_hurley]: yeah

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[adam_hill]: right

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[niomi_hurley]: that’s what yeah that’s what

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[adam_hill]: awesome

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[niomi_hurley]: i believe and i think it’s the
step from the zone of excellence to the

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[niomi_hurley]: those sorts of things because you’re in
this mfortable space right everything is familiar someone

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[niomi_hurley]: self questioning am i going to be
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[niomi_hurley]: because even if you fall over the
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but it’s trusting

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[adam_hill]: right

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[adam_hill]: it sounds like which interesting there is
that it sounds like fear lives in the

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[adam_hill]: so that’s

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[adam_hill]: that’s really really interesting i’d love to
hear how how you get into the zone

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into that zone out of that excellence

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[niomi_hurley]: i think what i needed to do
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[niomi_hurley]: and you know i was raised to
go get a job go and build a

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[niomi_hurley]: subconscious level and then when you get
to that state of genius and most of

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[niomi_hurley]: my clients on the individual side of
things in that state of excellence they’re there

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[niomi_hurley]: they’re doing really well but something is
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[niomi_hurley]: not going home for field or they’re
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[niomi_hurley]: had to put too much energy in
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[adam_hill]: yeah and that’s i think that’s something
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[adam_hill]: especially high achievers is as they work
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[adam_hill]: check and you know it’s very similar
to your store where you know they get

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[adam_hill]: they get the recognition they get that
they get to that point where they’re the

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[adam_hill]: ones that are called for all of
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[adam_hill]: they reach that but the realities i
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[adam_hill]: we don’t actually participate it because we’re
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[adam_hill]: paycheck but then all of a sudden
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you make that distinction yeah

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[niomi_hurley]: and i think that is definitely that’s
the key phrase i might actually borrow that

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[niomi_hurley]: the fear and falling over i usually
say to my clients when they are in

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[niomi_hurley]: that state of fargo you can list
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[niomi_hurley]: one of my clients i was speaking
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[niomi_hurley]: and they were saying to me there’s
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[niomi_hurley]: then what’s the worst you already know
that there’s going to be people that don’t

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[niomi_hurley]: like it they’re not your ideal client
you move past them you already know that

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[niomi_hurley]: you might make typos in your socials
post people know you’re real there’s

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[adam_hill]: hm

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[niomi_hurley]: authenticity know so it doesn’t matter what
our brain can create it’s really not when

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the consequences of it aren’t usually deathtifying unless

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[niomi_hurley]: yeah and i think that’s another fear
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[niomi_hurley]: of the tribe to hunt eat be
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[niomi_hurley]: so in this day and age though
when we re frame that you know there’s

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and she survives so it’s just trying to

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[adam_hill]: oh

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[adam_hill]: sure yeah and it’s i can definitely
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[adam_hill]: mean i still struggle with that to
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[adam_hill]: amazing what the brain does i mean
yes course we’re afraid of things that you

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[adam_hill]: know might kill us but the idea
of of oh man you know you mentioned

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[adam_hill]: the grammatical errors on social media’s like
i get so afraid to post something because

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your in that or the

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[adam_hill]: right version of their somebody’s going to
skewer me for it really what’s the end

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[adam_hill]: of the world is at the end
of the world but yeah you’re right it’s

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[adam_hill]: it’s like we do want to be
part of a tribe it’s that natural tendency

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[adam_hill]: but but man it’s like we want
that tribe to be everybody you know

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[adam_hill]: we don’t want to exclude and so
we’re afraid that by losing one person we

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[adam_hill]: lose everybody but it seems like the
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[adam_hill]: maybe exclude the wrong people then you
know we can be much happier

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[niomi_hurley]: yeah and we can serve at a
higher level you know and i feel because

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[niomi_hurley]: ifted out of that space the fear
isn’t driving us any more and we’re pushing

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we’re coming from that place authenticity we’ve got

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[niomi_hurley]: you know one of the issues that
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[niomi_hurley]: performance management discussions right everyone sees performance
management as a

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[niomi_hurley]: negative they know i’m in trouble but
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[niomi_hurley]: you serve your people how can you
help them grow how can you help them

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that fear of being disliked people tend to

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[niomi_hurley]: you know when when we’re speaking with
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[niomi_hurley]: of emotion it’s kind of like how
a horse consents you know straight away

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[niomi_hurley]: and and that can become quite triggering
and then the converse tin is just about

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[niomi_hurley]: be comfortable in that space or comfortable
in the uncomfortable and sit there and actually

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[niomi_hurley]: say well what’s my purpose here my
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[niomi_hurley]: strip that emotion away then the conversation
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[niomi_hurley]: further and it’s a different space to
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[adam_hill]: okay yeah so and how do you
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[adam_hill]: always very difficult but how how do
you deal with that emotion and and take

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of just getting through that emotion and getting

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[niomi_hurley]: so i this is probably one of
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i’m a recipe here in the k and

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[niomi_hurley]: it’s just phenomenal it’s absolutely amazing so
what we do is we go back into

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this you know thing holding you back here

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[niomi_hurley]: so when something holds us and it
threatens our identity or our safety we automatically

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[niomi_hurley]: come from a place of fear or
frustration or sadness okay so emotion just comes

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[niomi_hurley]: out so we go back and we
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[adam_hill]: hm

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[niomi_hurley]: why was that established in the subconscious
why is that actually there in the first

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[niomi_hurley]: place and then once we identify it
we can move it on and the thing

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[niomi_hurley]: about the subconscious that some people may
or may not realize is when it actually

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[niomi_hurley]: is programme so say something happens to
me at the age of four and it’s

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[niomi_hurley]: reinforced over ten eleven twelve my subconscious
mind grabs it at the age of four

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[niomi_hurley]: and at that cognition of a four
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[adam_hill]: oh

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[niomi_hurley]: if you don’t do this you won’t
be safe and when you go

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[niomi_hurley]: and you can actually address that you
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[niomi_hurley]: adult you are and then you can
actually process it a lot more effectively

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[adam_hill]: i see so it is it is
a reprogramming and it’s reprogramming at the subconscious

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[adam_hill]: that’s interesting yeah so so then and
i know a lot of people you know

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[adam_hill]: when when they hear that you know
when they hear hypnosis they’re thinking oh okay

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[adam_hill]: here we go some kind of you
know like you know in the pin this

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[adam_hill]: guy kind of thing of course but
but there is science behind that i mean

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[adam_hill]: that programming at the subconscious level i
mean that is that is scientific and and

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[adam_hill]: and it is how we really develop
our paradymesare beliefs are fears everything in there

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[adam_hill]: and so re programming it that at
that level safe and secure environment is a

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[adam_hill]: huge way to overcome that and you’ve
had a lot of success with that kind

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[adam_hill]: of therapy

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[niomi_hurley]: yeah yeah a lot of success and
and just going back to that point that

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[niomi_hurley]: you were saying about it being now
seen sometimes to be

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[niomi_hurley]: a bit i know when i first
started on this journey i used

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[niomi_hurley]: to i’ll take you in a meditie
state people accepted that more and so part

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[niomi_hurley]: of my journey over since i started
my business was actually coming through and being

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[niomi_hurley]: more authentic and going i don’t care
if people dislike me because i do hypnosis

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[niomi_hurley]: right or judge me because this is
who i am and so when you go

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[niomi_hurley]: into those places it’s it’s just going
in and like you say re program in

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[niomi_hurley]: the brain and if you look at
not

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[adam_hill]: hm

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[niomi_hurley]: just the science but also the practical
application you know so many sports teams sports

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[niomi_hurley]: stars high performance executives so they all
use hypnosis to get them into the right

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[niomi_hurley]: state before they go in and go
to perform because it can increase your performance

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00:19:51,755 –> 00:19:55,541
[niomi_hurley]: as well you know with how you’re
thinking and how your brain controls the rest

396
00:19:55,601 –> 00:19:56,728
[niomi_hurley]: of body and your emotions

397
00:19:58,350 –> 00:20:03,959
[adam_hill]: yeah i certainly i certainly believe that
i’m i’m a huge advocate for that kind

398
00:20:03,999 –> 00:20:08,246
[adam_hill]: of stuff i mean especially within the
realm of you know not just mental health

399
00:20:08,327 –> 00:20:14,817
[adam_hill]: but continuing to effectively being a good
leader i mean it’s it’s it’s something that’s

400
00:20:15,118 –> 00:20:19,946
[adam_hill]: powerful that really hasn’t been explored there’s
an you know not to go off on

401
00:20:20,166 –> 00:20:23,071
[adam_hill]: too much of a tangent but you
know within the world of mental health there’s

402
00:20:23,211 –> 00:20:25,695
[adam_hill]: there’s so much within the medical industry
that’s

403
00:20:26,142 –> 00:20:26,385
[niomi_hurley]: oh

404
00:20:26,357 –> 00:20:27,919
[adam_hill]: that’s limited you know

405
00:20:27,966 –> 00:20:28,089
[niomi_hurley]: yeah

406
00:20:28,220 –> 00:20:34,089
[adam_hill]: we’re starting to open up these things
now which is exciting hypnosis you know psychic

407
00:20:34,250 –> 00:20:42,163
[adam_hill]: lic you know psychodelictreatments those kinds of
things it’s it’s powerful and i love seeing

408
00:20:42,243 –> 00:20:47,051
[adam_hill]: what what these can do and i
wish more leaders would embro those kinds of

409
00:20:47,111 –> 00:20:53,402
[adam_hill]: ideas so i think that you’re doing
some great work there and so kind of

410
00:20:53,562 –> 00:21:00,554
[adam_hill]: getting into that subconscious subconscious area of
fear is there anything you know short of

411
00:21:00,594 –> 00:21:05,662
[adam_hill]: hypnosis is there is there anything that
we can do when we’re leading and when

412
00:21:05,722 –> 00:21:09,869
[adam_hill]: we when we’re faced with those kinds
of fears fears of pleasing people or anything

413
00:21:09,909 –> 00:21:15,309
[adam_hill]: like that that we can do to
try and get past that you know to

414
00:21:15,750 –> 00:21:17,897
[adam_hill]: really push beyond our own limits

415
00:21:19,102 –> 00:21:23,289
[niomi_hurley]: yeah so the people that i work
with and i do the hypnosis as well

416
00:21:23,329 –> 00:21:26,915
[niomi_hurley]: in the corporate space as well in
groups which is just really super powerful to

417
00:21:26,894 –> 00:21:26,935
[adam_hill]: m

418
00:21:26,975 –> 00:21:32,587
[niomi_hurley]: try and shift that with individual clients
and with corporate client the three key things

419
00:21:32,647 –> 00:21:36,920
[niomi_hurley]: that come up is whatever has presented
in their subconscious has made them feel unsafe

420
00:21:37,702 –> 00:21:43,473
[niomi_hurley]: has made them feel unloved it made
them feel unworthy and fear is just

421
00:21:43,324 –> 00:21:43,950
[adam_hill]: hm

422
00:21:43,593 –> 00:21:48,858
[niomi_hurley]: coming up and it’s reminding us of
one or a combination of those things whenever

423
00:21:48,898 –> 00:21:52,201
[niomi_hurley]: we’re facing something so when i went
to go and start my own business it

424
00:21:52,281 –> 00:21:58,163
[niomi_hurley]: was if you call yourself a hyphypnotherapist
you’ll be unloved you’re unworthy

425
00:21:58,743 –> 00:21:58,804
[adam_hill]: hm

426
00:21:58,744 –> 00:22:01,909
[niomi_hurley]: of being able to do something you
love and make bulk amount of money right

427
00:22:02,891 –> 00:22:03,111
[niomi_hurley]: you know

428
00:22:03,761 –> 00:22:04,004
[adam_hill]: right

429
00:22:03,932 –> 00:22:06,437
[niomi_hurley]: you’ll be alone because people won’t be
with you and

430
00:22:06,870 –> 00:22:07,830
[adam_hill]: oh

431
00:22:06,897 –> 00:22:11,112
[niomi_hurley]: so on that subconscious level it’s being
i would sometimes consciously tell you so if

432
00:22:11,132 –> 00:22:14,872
[niomi_hurley]: you know i am safe this is
what i was saying before re framing what

433
00:22:14,933 –> 00:22:18,122
[niomi_hurley]: is the worst that can happen and
you

434
00:22:18,373 –> 00:22:18,413
[adam_hill]: h

435
00:22:19,165 –> 00:22:19,285
[niomi_hurley]: you

436
00:22:19,179 –> 00:22:19,200
[adam_hill]: m

437
00:22:19,406 –> 00:22:20,709
[niomi_hurley]: are worthy to

438
00:22:20,610 –> 00:22:20,873
[adam_hill]: oh

439
00:22:20,950 –> 00:22:24,500
[niomi_hurley]: be given an opportunity and that opportunity
be in front of you you’re worthy of

440
00:22:24,580 –> 00:22:29,558
[niomi_hurley]: it it wouldn’t be there so to
sort of push in and just move into

441
00:22:29,598 –> 00:22:31,101
[niomi_hurley]: that space and give it a shot

442
00:22:33,441 –> 00:22:38,652
[adam_hill]: so just yeah so really it’s a
it’s an empowerment mode of of convincing yourself

443
00:22:38,692 –> 00:22:42,458
[adam_hill]: you’re were the year enough and and
knowing that that you are i mean that

444
00:22:42,558 –> 00:22:46,525
[adam_hill]: that that is a challenge for a
lot of leaders to to really address that

445
00:22:46,585 –> 00:22:51,573
[adam_hill]: impostor syndrome and i’ve you know heard
that on on most of the interviews i’ve

446
00:22:51,613 –> 00:22:55,640
[adam_hill]: done thus far is that idea that
once we get into this point we feel

447
00:22:55,680 –> 00:23:01,169
[adam_hill]: like we’re impostors is one of our
bigger fears because hugh edwards who i had

448
00:23:01,189 –> 00:23:06,738
[adam_hill]: in the podcast recently had said this
that that and it was actually very freeing

449
00:23:06,799 –> 00:23:10,966
[adam_hill]: when when when he said this and
i’m going to steal it but he said

450
00:23:12,087 –> 00:23:17,577
[adam_hill]: that you know we when when we’re
feeling that what really happens is we’re recognizing

451
00:23:17,977 –> 00:23:22,545
[adam_hill]: that you know really no nobody you
know we’re all winging it you know we

452
00:23:22,605 –> 00:23:22,705
[adam_hill]: all

453
00:23:22,674 –> 00:23:22,757
[niomi_hurley]: ah

454
00:23:22,765 –> 00:23:26,451
[adam_hill]: we’re all kind of winging it nobody
really knows exactly there’s no manuals to this

455
00:23:26,531 –> 00:23:32,682
[adam_hill]: leadership thing and so if if we’re
in our zone of excellence clearly there’s there’s

456
00:23:32,722 –> 00:23:36,508
[adam_hill]: this point where you know we’re not
pushing hard enough because we need to be

457
00:23:36,548 –> 00:23:40,798
[adam_hill]: in that impostor rome in order to
if we’re not feeling that maybe we’re in

458
00:23:40,838 –> 00:23:45,088
[adam_hill]: that zone of excellence i mean does
that does that resonate does that make sense

459
00:23:45,852 –> 00:23:51,842
[niomi_hurley]: definitely and and i talk of into
about impostors in german you know if you’re

460
00:23:51,922 –> 00:23:55,047
[niomi_hurley]: in a room you’re in a board
room or a meeting room at a sporting

461
00:23:55,108 –> 00:23:59,254
[niomi_hurley]: club wherever you are and you’re in
that room you feel like you’re not worthy

462
00:23:59,355 –> 00:24:01,919
[niomi_hurley]: to be there you know and what
if i make a mistake i’ll be

463
00:24:01,892 –> 00:24:01,933
[adam_hill]: h

464
00:24:02,480 –> 00:24:02,560
[niomi_hurley]: be

465
00:24:02,559 –> 00:24:02,580
[adam_hill]: m

466
00:24:02,620 –> 00:24:06,366
[niomi_hurley]: discovered that i’m not perfect you know
because there’s a lot of perfection is around

467
00:24:06,446 –> 00:24:09,492
[niomi_hurley]: impostor sindri as well and a lot
of achieve

468
00:24:09,586 –> 00:24:10,260
[adam_hill]: hm

469
00:24:09,792 –> 00:24:14,179
[niomi_hurley]: experience that because they want everything to
be right on point but when you’re in

470
00:24:14,219 –> 00:24:17,926
[niomi_hurley]: the room and you look around you
can probably talk to this out of it

471
00:24:18,486 –> 00:24:21,653
[niomi_hurley]: there’s at least one person in the
room that you look at going head do

472
00:24:21,733 –> 00:24:23,672
[niomi_hurley]: we get here how did

473
00:24:23,610 –> 00:24:23,771
[adam_hill]: uh

474
00:24:23,732 –> 00:24:25,034
[niomi_hurley]: you get in this room right

475
00:24:25,809 –> 00:24:25,830
[adam_hill]: h

476
00:24:25,916 –> 00:24:26,898
[niomi_hurley]: they don’t have really

477
00:24:26,802 –> 00:24:26,982
[adam_hill]: right

478
00:24:26,958 –> 00:24:31,004
[niomi_hurley]: a lot to bring what they say
doesn’t fit but everyone still nods they might

479
00:24:31,044 –> 00:24:32,667
[niomi_hurley]: not have the skills or the experience

480
00:24:32,715 –> 00:24:32,797
[adam_hill]: ah

481
00:24:32,727 –> 00:24:36,797
[niomi_hurley]: but they’re there and the whole difference
between why they’re there and why you’re feeling

482
00:24:36,858 –> 00:24:41,262
[niomi_hurley]: like you shouldn’t be there pretty much
as they believe they should be the only

483
00:24:41,342 –> 00:24:42,003
[niomi_hurley]: reason they’re there

484
00:24:42,032 –> 00:24:42,112
[adam_hill]: hm

485
00:24:42,624 –> 00:24:43,825
[niomi_hurley]: because of their capabilities

486
00:24:43,500 –> 00:24:44,160
[adam_hill]: yeah

487
00:24:43,865 –> 00:24:47,449
[niomi_hurley]: because they’re obviously not is just purely
they believe that they should be and so

488
00:24:47,750 –> 00:24:49,011
[niomi_hurley]: they sit there quite confidently

489
00:24:51,611 –> 00:24:55,658
[adam_hill]: i find that very therapeutic often to
look at those folks and and say okay

490
00:24:55,698 –> 00:24:58,462
[adam_hill]: if they can be here clearly i
could be here

491
00:24:58,752 –> 00:25:00,042
[niomi_hurley]: yeah

492
00:24:58,923 –> 00:25:04,693
[adam_hill]: because yeah i’ve definitely experienced that and
and and to the point i mean yeah

493
00:25:05,113 –> 00:25:09,060
[adam_hill]: i think you’re right that confidence plays
such a big role of confidence and persistence

494
00:25:09,481 –> 00:25:13,207
[adam_hill]: are highly underrated skills in this world
today and to

495
00:25:13,221 –> 00:25:13,242
[niomi_hurley]: m

496
00:25:13,267 –> 00:25:19,658
[adam_hill]: that end you know give into that
impostor syndrome letting that guide our decisions is

497
00:25:19,758 –> 00:25:23,504
[adam_hill]: probably one of the most tragic things
that happens in our society because

498
00:25:23,592 –> 00:25:23,754
[niomi_hurley]: yeah

499
00:25:24,165 –> 00:25:29,858
[adam_hill]: how many great ideas have gone on
fulfilled because somebody just thought you know i’m

500
00:25:29,918 –> 00:25:33,308
[adam_hill]: not the right one to do this
but i’m not the right person for this

501
00:25:34,172 –> 00:25:34,316
[niomi_hurley]: yep

502
00:25:34,280 –> 00:25:39,949
[adam_hill]: man it’s so i wonder and and
but for for you you you did that

503
00:25:40,029 –> 00:25:45,599
[adam_hill]: because you recognized you were in that
zone of excellence and then you you had

504
00:25:45,659 –> 00:25:51,709
[adam_hill]: the you you wanted to take this
leap and and you know even even though

505
00:25:52,891 –> 00:25:57,058
[adam_hill]: you’d mentioned that you were the sole
bread winner for your household you know and

506
00:25:57,098 –> 00:25:59,665
[adam_hill]: you were making a good ince you
ere you were doing all of these great

507
00:25:59,725 –> 00:26:07,020
[adam_hill]: things and but you know you overcame
that fear and went anyway and so when

508
00:26:07,080 –> 00:26:10,846
[adam_hill]: that process happened when when you made
that initial leap i kind of want to

509
00:26:11,106 –> 00:26:16,336
[adam_hill]: jump around that how how was that
for the first year what was it like

510
00:26:16,376 –> 00:26:19,221
[adam_hill]: within that first year did you were
there times where you were like i just

511
00:26:19,281 –> 00:26:20,844
[adam_hill]: can’t do this any more where there’re
times

512
00:26:20,772 –> 00:26:20,974
[niomi_hurley]: oh

513
00:26:20,864 –> 00:26:22,627
[adam_hill]: where you were like this is awesome

514
00:26:24,063 –> 00:26:29,712
[niomi_hurley]: definitely and i mean my husband was
working as well so i was probably the

515
00:26:29,772 –> 00:26:34,460
[niomi_hurley]: primary income in so we did have
some income but it didn’t match our

516
00:26:34,302 –> 00:26:35,010
[adam_hill]: hm

517
00:26:34,901 –> 00:26:38,887
[niomi_hurley]: standard of ving and all of those
things that we were used to right so

518
00:26:38,988 –> 00:26:44,016
[niomi_hurley]: i felt like by doing this i’m
also having my family have to make sacrifices

519
00:26:44,096 –> 00:26:47,722
[niomi_hurley]: so i’m letting them down so there’s
that pressure of fear of being disliked hidden

520
00:26:47,842 –> 00:26:53,392
[niomi_hurley]: in letting people down um and the
first step i took is when i came

521
00:26:53,452 –> 00:26:56,757
[niomi_hurley]: out i had established myself as i
said with a whole heap of credibility with

522
00:26:56,817 –> 00:27:02,266
[niomi_hurley]: a range of people in different industries
mainly mining industries i was working in the

523
00:27:02,306 –> 00:27:07,735
[niomi_hurley]: transport industry and i was on a
transport industry association i had heaps of contact

524
00:27:08,196 –> 00:27:11,361
[niomi_hurley]: so i did what you do right
ask your friends for help what they say

525
00:27:11,542 –> 00:27:14,126
[niomi_hurley]: you first go into business so i
emailed everyone

526
00:27:14,000 –> 00:27:14,182
[adam_hill]: right

527
00:27:14,447 –> 00:27:17,311
[niomi_hurley]: told them what i was doing all
this sort of stuff i got all these

528
00:27:17,412 –> 00:27:23,121
[niomi_hurley]: emails going you’ll be awesome at that
men have no no hesitation of knowing that

529
00:27:23,161 –> 00:27:27,974
[niomi_hurley]: you succeed no one person engaged me
one person went to work

530
00:27:27,905 –> 00:27:27,946
[adam_hill]: m

531
00:27:28,495 –> 00:27:28,775
[niomi_hurley]: and that

532
00:27:28,779 –> 00:27:28,800
[adam_hill]: m

533
00:27:28,835 –> 00:27:32,802
[niomi_hurley]: was just a real slap in the
face of oh i think this is going

534
00:27:32,842 –> 00:27:35,927
[niomi_hurley]: to be easy so that was my
first thing i had to overcome that i’m

535
00:27:35,967 –> 00:27:39,563
[niomi_hurley]: going to have to create this it’s
not going to be given to me um

536
00:27:40,005 –> 00:27:40,680
[adam_hill]: hm

537
00:27:40,611 –> 00:27:45,560
[niomi_hurley]: m did i think about getting a
day job probably in the early days probably

538
00:27:45,600 –> 00:27:48,064
[niomi_hurley]: about once a month i thought i’ve
done the right

539
00:27:48,030 –> 00:27:48,271
[adam_hill]: yeah

540
00:27:48,124 –> 00:27:50,127
[niomi_hurley]: thing and then

541
00:27:50,060 –> 00:27:50,221
[adam_hill]: yeah

542
00:27:50,247 –> 00:27:54,434
[niomi_hurley]: as i went searching through sklooking for
what was advertised i’m looking at the job

543
00:27:54,494 –> 00:27:59,240
[niomi_hurley]: going now what are you doing and
i would push it down so yeah i

544
00:27:59,360 –> 00:28:05,794
[niomi_hurley]: have the start was really high high
and really low lows over time that itself

545
00:28:06,054 –> 00:28:11,298
[niomi_hurley]: has given me the tools and the
strength and the self believe to now when

546
00:28:11,358 –> 00:28:15,662
[niomi_hurley]: i’m facing it low i actually can
snap myself out of it go hang on

547
00:28:15,762 –> 00:28:18,945
[niomi_hurley]: take a breath you’ve been here before
you don’t need to go that you’ve got

548
00:28:18,965 –> 00:28:23,249
[niomi_hurley]: a lot to give so it’s i
value those moments because that’s what strength in

549
00:28:23,309 –> 00:28:25,591
[niomi_hurley]: the muscle you know to get me
to where i am now

550
00:28:25,692 –> 00:28:31,446
[adam_hill]: hm m yeah that’s and that’s that’s
huge for for people that might be listening

551
00:28:31,506 –> 00:28:34,591
[adam_hill]: thinking they got they have to take
that leap they want to take that leap

552
00:28:34,631 –> 00:28:37,897
[adam_hill]: but i know that there’s there’s a
lot of people out there that have these

553
00:28:37,977 –> 00:28:42,745
[adam_hill]: ideas have these have s mission driven
you know messages that they want to share

554
00:28:42,805 –> 00:28:47,753
[adam_hill]: with the world that but they’re afraid
to because they’re in that safe and secure

555
00:28:47,873 –> 00:28:53,182
[adam_hill]: spot and i just i want i
want them to hear stories yours because it’s

556
00:28:53,242 –> 00:28:58,010
[adam_hill]: very it’s very important that you know
they understand that that be those beginning stages

557
00:28:58,070 –> 00:29:03,499
[adam_hill]: yes they’re very lonely they’re very you
know they’re very empty it’s shouting into the

558
00:29:03,640 –> 00:29:09,143
[adam_hill]: and they’re shouting you know into the
empty void but eventually and at some point

559
00:29:09,624 –> 00:29:11,367
[adam_hill]: it starts to trickle in and you
start

560
00:29:11,413 –> 00:29:11,577
[niomi_hurley]: yes

561
00:29:11,427 –> 00:29:15,574
[adam_hill]: to experience that success and and i
was so fortunate to see

562
00:29:15,522 –> 00:29:15,542
[niomi_hurley]: m

563
00:29:16,335 –> 00:29:20,302
[adam_hill]: your growth and your trajectory since the
very beginning and that’s that was that was

564
00:29:20,382 –> 00:29:24,328
[adam_hill]: so great because just watching you have
this great idea of what you wanted to

565
00:29:24,389 –> 00:29:30,799
[adam_hill]: achieve leaving you your job jumping out
into this on you know jumping out into

566
00:29:30,859 –> 00:29:34,726
[adam_hill]: this world of the unknown and then
building it and what you have and and

567
00:29:35,968 –> 00:29:39,814
[adam_hill]: seeing your success forms grow as well
i’ve been on a on a couple of

568
00:29:39,854 –> 00:29:45,424
[adam_hill]: your your success forms which are which
are these great full day events you know

569
00:29:45,584 –> 00:29:50,572
[adam_hill]: where you bring in speakers and you
share um it’s been neat to see those

570
00:29:50,632 –> 00:29:51,774
[adam_hill]: grow too can you

571
00:29:51,782 –> 00:29:51,944
[niomi_hurley]: yeah

572
00:29:51,854 –> 00:29:54,980
[adam_hill]: tell us about how those are doing
and what’s coming with those m

573
00:29:55,392 –> 00:30:01,442
[niomi_hurley]: yeah so i am i really love
those one of my other other places i

574
00:30:01,502 –> 00:30:06,571
[niomi_hurley]: mean my genius is getting people together
collaborating referals all those sorts of things you

575
00:30:06,611 –> 00:30:09,616
[niomi_hurley]: know seeing people grow and it doesn’t
mean they have to sign up with me

576
00:30:09,736 –> 00:30:12,441
[niomi_hurley]: to do it you know it’s connecting
them with the right people

577
00:30:12,758 –> 00:30:13,290
[adam_hill]: hm

578
00:30:12,921 –> 00:30:17,449
[niomi_hurley]: and that’s what the success for ems
do and i’m able to run them with

579
00:30:17,569 –> 00:30:21,936
[niomi_hurley]: technology thank you getting you know speakers
in from all over the world such as

580
00:30:21,977 –> 00:30:28,347
[niomi_hurley]: yourself and stream online and also have
it in person so it was a little

581
00:30:28,367 –> 00:30:32,795
[niomi_hurley]: bit again here it was a little
bit challenging when covid came to western australia

582
00:30:32,875 –> 00:30:36,000
[niomi_hurley]: so we were right behind the rest
of the world and we were kind of

583
00:30:36,080 –> 00:30:38,905
[niomi_hurley]: in a little bubble we even cut
our borders off from the rest of the

584
00:30:38,945 –> 00:30:42,411
[niomi_hurley]: country to keep us safe so when
they open those

585
00:30:42,414 –> 00:30:42,535
[adam_hill]: it

586
00:30:42,491 –> 00:30:46,557
[niomi_hurley]: borders there was the mask mandate you
know all that sort of stuff coming just

587
00:30:46,658 –> 00:30:48,801
[niomi_hurley]: as i was running a form so

588
00:30:49,362 –> 00:30:49,564
[adam_hill]: right

589
00:30:49,482 –> 00:30:51,646
[niomi_hurley]: that that taught me to piet

590
00:30:51,690 –> 00:30:52,620
[adam_hill]: yeah

591
00:30:51,766 –> 00:30:56,073
[niomi_hurley]: right because i didn’t have enough people
in the room to me really viable so

592
00:30:56,274 –> 00:31:01,342
[niomi_hurley]: i thought why don’t i stream online
as well and you know there was there’s

593
00:31:01,542 –> 00:31:05,108
[niomi_hurley]: mixed people have their own self belief
systems and i think we’re all entitled to

594
00:31:05,128 –> 00:31:09,576
[niomi_hurley]: that so there was some people that
didn’t want to follow the mandates that were

595
00:31:09,616 –> 00:31:13,282
[niomi_hurley]: given by the government for their own
personal reasons and so i thought that would

596
00:31:13,442 –> 00:31:19,372
[niomi_hurley]: give an opportunity for inclusivity ter everyone
could attend but i suppose

597
00:31:19,140 –> 00:31:19,160
[adam_hill]: m

598
00:31:19,432 –> 00:31:22,477
[niomi_hurley]: that’s where that shifting that focus like
i went in i didn’t get the ticket

599
00:31:22,578 –> 00:31:26,284
[niomi_hurley]: sales i could have sat there and
really felt sorry for myself which i did

600
00:31:26,344 –> 00:31:29,649
[niomi_hurley]: a tiny bit if i’m being honest
but then it came the time to pull

601
00:31:29,676 –> 00:31:30,390
[adam_hill]: hm

602
00:31:29,689 –> 00:31:34,198
[niomi_hurley]: it out what are you going to
and when you move out of that that

603
00:31:34,599 –> 00:31:39,573
[niomi_hurley]: place of a catastrophe supposed for lack
of a better word you get clarity you

604
00:31:39,633 –> 00:31:44,445
[niomi_hurley]: come up with different ideas you can
think differently and so we’ve got another one

605
00:31:44,605 –> 00:31:48,632
[niomi_hurley]: actually coming up early in the new
year so thank you adam for putting your

606
00:31:48,672 –> 00:31:50,635
[niomi_hurley]: hand up again we should be fantastic

607
00:31:50,790 –> 00:31:51,092
[adam_hill]: yeah

608
00:31:50,955 –> 00:31:53,960
[niomi_hurley]: and i hope to run them at
least a couple of times a year because

609
00:31:54,281 –> 00:32:00,134
[niomi_hurley]: it all it gives people access to
the kind of people like us that are

610
00:32:00,194 –> 00:32:05,074
[niomi_hurley]: able to share at a minimal expense
now when someone gets

611
00:32:05,070 –> 00:32:05,214
[adam_hill]: yeah

612
00:32:05,214 –> 00:32:09,381
[niomi_hurley]: really good at what they do obviously
their value financially grows up as well and

613
00:32:09,442 –> 00:32:13,488
[niomi_hurley]: some people can’t access those services so
i feel like in that forum space

614
00:32:13,684 –> 00:32:13,704
[adam_hill]: i

615
00:32:13,949 –> 00:32:17,919
[niomi_hurley]: it gives all people of back rounds
of all clients to be able to access

616
00:32:18,662 –> 00:32:21,230
[niomi_hurley]: those quality people and their messages

617
00:32:22,160 –> 00:32:28,458
[adam_hill]: yeah yeah that and and that’s what
i’ve found too watching those is you’re bringing

618
00:32:28,638 –> 00:32:33,166
[adam_hill]: so much into that it’s like it’s
like a wholistic whole life you know experience

619
00:32:33,266 –> 00:32:37,353
[adam_hill]: and and i really i really enjoyed
it i rememe that that covid experience how

620
00:32:37,493 –> 00:32:42,822
[adam_hill]: how quickly you know it hit and
you scrambled but you pulled it off and

621
00:32:42,882 –> 00:32:47,590
[adam_hill]: that that’s that’s a testament i think
really to a lot of the bus this

622
00:32:47,650 –> 00:32:50,895
[adam_hill]: is during that time a lot of
people were complaining and

623
00:32:51,083 –> 00:32:51,228
[niomi_hurley]: yeah

624
00:32:52,137 –> 00:32:58,227
[adam_hill]: i get it you know when things
threaten your business you know it stinks when

625
00:32:58,308 –> 00:33:04,177
[adam_hill]: things threaten our livelihood it stinks but
those who were successful adapted and and i

626
00:33:04,217 –> 00:33:08,344
[adam_hill]: think those who thrive thrive adapted which
is exactly

627
00:33:08,014 –> 00:33:08,178
[niomi_hurley]: yeah

628
00:33:08,384 –> 00:33:10,087
[adam_hill]: what you did and then your

629
00:33:10,019 –> 00:33:10,182
[niomi_hurley]: yeah

630
00:33:10,187 –> 00:33:13,872
[adam_hill]: next event became even more cessful because
you were you know you were able to

631
00:33:13,973 –> 00:33:18,759
[adam_hill]: do virtual and in person that time
again and it worked out really well

632
00:33:20,013 –> 00:33:24,406
[niomi_hurley]: and i remember one event last year
i had all planned and all had ready

633
00:33:24,727 –> 00:33:28,966
[niomi_hurley]: and actually got covid so we had
restrictions around leaving

634
00:33:28,980 –> 00:33:29,286
[adam_hill]: oh

635
00:33:29,006 –> 00:33:31,630
[niomi_hurley]: the house and i had to pivot
again and go okay this one is just

636
00:33:31,690 –> 00:33:34,235
[niomi_hurley]: purely online you know i can’t do
it in person so

637
00:33:34,610 –> 00:33:34,791
[adam_hill]: right

638
00:33:35,677 –> 00:33:42,830
[niomi_hurley]: yeah’sit’s understanding though that if you’re in
a place where it does get you down

639
00:33:43,682 –> 00:33:45,147
[niomi_hurley]: it’s okay because it’s meant to

640
00:33:45,408 –> 00:33:46,080
[adam_hill]: hm

641
00:33:45,830 –> 00:33:50,776
[niomi_hurley]: because growth doesn’t come from a place
of comfort it comes from being uncomfortable

642
00:33:50,923 –> 00:33:51,630
[adam_hill]: hm

643
00:33:51,598 –> 00:33:58,513
[niomi_hurley]: and you know it’s just not unpacking
and staying there know making sure and it’s

644
00:33:58,593 –> 00:34:02,617
[niomi_hurley]: always got something to teach us and
i tell this especially to my kids you

645
00:34:02,657 –> 00:34:06,620
[niomi_hurley]: know if they’re feeling sad or they’re
feeling like something there feel it what’s it

646
00:34:06,680 –> 00:34:10,626
[niomi_hurley]: trying to teach you what’s it trying
to give you and then there comes a

647
00:34:10,706 –> 00:34:13,851
[niomi_hurley]: point where i’m like all right come
on this is getting you know a bit

648
00:34:13,931 –> 00:34:16,155
[niomi_hurley]: rough now how are we going to
change it how are you going to re

649
00:34:16,275 –> 00:34:21,337
[niomi_hurley]: frame and move forward but some of
the clients that i see unfortunately we had

650
00:34:21,397 –> 00:34:22,444
[niomi_hurley]: a generation where we wouldn’t

651
00:34:22,290 –> 00:34:22,596
[adam_hill]: oh

652
00:34:22,484 –> 00:34:25,815
[niomi_hurley]: let people feel so we pushed everything
down

653
00:34:25,572 –> 00:34:26,580
[adam_hill]: hm

654
00:34:26,235 –> 00:34:31,464
[niomi_hurley]: and then it becomes stuck in energy
bodies a body systems and re framing in

655
00:34:31,524 –> 00:34:35,310
[niomi_hurley]: the brain all those sorts of things
then we switched and then we have a

656
00:34:35,350 –> 00:34:39,799
[niomi_hurley]: generation we’re saying feel feel it’s okay
to feel these people don’t know how to

657
00:34:39,879 –> 00:34:42,984
[niomi_hurley]: turn off their feelings and then we
have a space

658
00:34:42,832 –> 00:34:42,852
[adam_hill]: h

659
00:34:43,044 –> 00:34:44,086
[niomi_hurley]: where we’ve got increased

660
00:34:43,779 –> 00:34:43,800
[adam_hill]: m

661
00:34:44,146 –> 00:34:48,733
[niomi_hurley]: mental health issues and people that have
limited coping skills and able to adapt to

662
00:34:48,814 –> 00:34:53,762
[niomi_hurley]: life and i’m hoping that from the
influence of myself and other leaders like you

663
00:34:54,083 –> 00:34:57,712
[niomi_hurley]: in this environment that we can help
shift that a little bit more for the

664
00:34:57,772 –> 00:35:02,772
[niomi_hurley]: next generation to go how about we
can bind those and get a balance how

665
00:35:02,792 –> 00:35:03,033
[niomi_hurley]: about we

666
00:35:03,130 –> 00:35:03,271
[adam_hill]: yeah

667
00:35:03,193 –> 00:35:03,473
[niomi_hurley]: feel

668
00:35:03,814 –> 00:35:03,995
[adam_hill]: yeah

669
00:35:04,054 –> 00:35:08,241
[niomi_hurley]: and be there but then move on
and create our capabilities and get past that

670
00:35:10,520 –> 00:35:15,287
[adam_hill]: that’s that’s that’s really great advice and
that’s a great way to look at how

671
00:35:15,368 –> 00:35:19,294
[adam_hill]: to how to do that and i’d
never heard it put that way before and

672
00:35:19,354 –> 00:35:23,782
[adam_hill]: it’s really profound the way you know
you mentioned that we have a generation that

673
00:35:23,982 –> 00:35:26,166
[adam_hill]: was trained not to feel and

674
00:35:26,004 –> 00:35:26,107
[niomi_hurley]: ah

675
00:35:26,366 –> 00:35:30,433
[adam_hill]: you know i think being a product
of that generation especially in our younger age

676
00:35:30,493 –> 00:35:33,578
[adam_hill]: it’s like all righ well that led
to a lot of pent up anxiety and

677
00:35:33,618 –> 00:35:37,685
[adam_hill]: i remember how that hit me when
i was when i was in college um

678
00:35:37,965 –> 00:35:40,670
[adam_hill]: it leads to abuse and things like
that i

679
00:35:40,712 –> 00:35:41,562
[niomi_hurley]: yeah

680
00:35:40,750 –> 00:35:44,416
[adam_hill]: can relate with you know my kids
and how how they feel and feel and

681
00:35:44,476 –> 00:35:49,185
[adam_hill]: feel it’s a lot but so that
balance is really important and needed there so

682
00:35:49,465 –> 00:35:55,757
[adam_hill]: i think yeah you’re finding that balance
within the the leadership generation as well is

683
00:35:55,777 –> 00:35:57,373
[adam_hill]: gonna be important yeah

684
00:35:57,242 –> 00:36:02,050
[niomi_hurley]: yeah and i mean most of the
leaders now except for the up and coming

685
00:36:02,290 –> 00:36:05,776
[niomi_hurley]: great inspiring leaders which i love working
with but at a

686
00:36:05,832 –> 00:36:05,853
[adam_hill]: m

687
00:36:05,916 –> 00:36:10,905
[niomi_hurley]: corporate a high corporate level let’s admit
it ajority are of that middle age sort

688
00:36:10,965 –> 00:36:14,651
[niomi_hurley]: of realm so you know they’re the
kids that were brought up i’ll give you

689
00:36:14,731 –> 00:36:17,416
[niomi_hurley]: something to cry for you know like
you can’t

690
00:36:17,280 –> 00:36:18,660
[adam_hill]: yeah

691
00:36:17,456 –> 00:36:18,698
[niomi_hurley]: feel emotions and the only

692
00:36:18,721 –> 00:36:18,885
[adam_hill]: right

693
00:36:18,738 –> 00:36:22,264
[niomi_hurley]: reason our parents did that is because
they didn’t now how to feel emotion so

694
00:36:22,344 –> 00:36:26,932
[niomi_hurley]: they put them in an uncomfortable space
you know but actually giving

695
00:36:26,875 –> 00:36:26,916
[adam_hill]: h

696
00:36:27,032 –> 00:36:27,713
[niomi_hurley]: space for our

697
00:36:27,669 –> 00:36:27,690
[adam_hill]: m

698
00:36:27,773 –> 00:36:31,639
[niomi_hurley]: kids to be able to feel and
even the people we work with giving them

699
00:36:31,659 –> 00:36:36,052
[niomi_hurley]: that space to feel then giving them
the tools to actually create their resilience and

700
00:36:36,313 –> 00:36:42,205
[niomi_hurley]: and go back to their coping skills
is just gold i think and i think

701
00:36:42,285 –> 00:36:43,086
[niomi_hurley]: that’s part of the

702
00:36:43,096 –> 00:36:43,116
[adam_hill]: h

703
00:36:43,166 –> 00:36:43,787
[niomi_hurley]: evolution of

704
00:36:43,869 –> 00:36:43,890
[adam_hill]: m

705
00:36:44,168 –> 00:36:46,451
[niomi_hurley]: humans as well that we go through
all that you know

706
00:36:48,380 –> 00:36:52,967
[adam_hill]: yeah yeah i love i love that
space and tools give them the space but

707
00:36:53,027 –> 00:36:54,730
[adam_hill]: give them the tools not either

708
00:36:54,493 –> 00:36:54,636
[niomi_hurley]: yeah

709
00:36:54,890 –> 00:36:57,575
[adam_hill]: or not neither but both i love

710
00:36:57,471 –> 00:36:57,492
[niomi_hurley]: m

711
00:36:57,635 –> 00:37:03,910
[adam_hill]: that yeah so and so what’s next
for naomi what’s next for you what are

712
00:37:03,970 –> 00:37:04,090
[adam_hill]: you

713
00:37:04,242 –> 00:37:05,301
[niomi_hurley]: yeah

714
00:37:04,431 –> 00:37:06,758
[adam_hill]: working on now what’s what’s coming up
the pike

715
00:37:07,883 –> 00:37:12,170
[niomi_hurley]: um so i take a deep breath
in again because everything that you think of

716
00:37:12,351 –> 00:37:15,436
[niomi_hurley]: comes with all of that fear but
look what

717
00:37:15,521 –> 00:37:15,826
[adam_hill]: oh yeah

718
00:37:15,796 –> 00:37:20,625
[niomi_hurley]: what’s next for me is my mind
is was going on on how i can

719
00:37:20,745 –> 00:37:25,753
[niomi_hurley]: serve and so i have i’ve got
some really great leadership programs i’m working with

720
00:37:25,793 –> 00:37:30,681
[niomi_hurley]: the business with locally which is just
really great and it’s actually going in on

721
00:37:31,042 –> 00:37:37,288
[niomi_hurley]: giving the team training but actually doing
some subconscious programming along the way right like

722
00:37:38,029 –> 00:37:39,011
[niomi_hurley]: they’re dealing with difficult

723
00:37:38,682 –> 00:37:38,702
[adam_hill]: m

724
00:37:39,091 –> 00:37:43,758
[niomi_hurley]: people course i put together people come
into that and most of that course is

725
00:37:43,879 –> 00:37:47,838
[niomi_hurley]: okay so why do they trigger you
what’s going on within you and so

726
00:37:47,875 –> 00:37:47,896
[adam_hill]: h

727
00:37:47,918 –> 00:37:48,681
[niomi_hurley]: it’s changing the

728
00:37:48,669 –> 00:37:48,690
[adam_hill]: m

729
00:37:48,741 –> 00:37:52,452
[niomi_hurley]: face of people that when they go
into the environment is less about the people

730
00:37:52,532 –> 00:37:56,757
[niomi_hurley]: around them and more about how they
present how they come into the world and

731
00:37:56,838 –> 00:38:01,534
[niomi_hurley]: so then they can actually level up
their leadership they’re going through all of the

732
00:38:01,654 –> 00:38:02,255
[niomi_hurley]: psychological

733
00:38:01,690 –> 00:38:01,851
[adam_hill]: yeah

734
00:38:02,476 –> 00:38:07,083
[niomi_hurley]: aspects as well of conformity why people
perform the way they’re doing groups all of

735
00:38:07,143 –> 00:38:11,010
[niomi_hurley]: that to give their leaders some sort
of insight into their teams and how they

736
00:38:11,070 –> 00:38:11,971
[niomi_hurley]: can get the best out of

737
00:38:12,300 –> 00:38:12,463
[adam_hill]: oh

738
00:38:12,933 –> 00:38:17,380
[niomi_hurley]: um and when i first started my
business i wanted to serve the world i

739
00:38:17,460 –> 00:38:21,066
[niomi_hurley]: had no niche i was i didn’t
want a niche because that would exclude people

740
00:38:21,407 –> 00:38:26,816
[niomi_hurley]: but over time i’ve really found my
passion my skill set really thrives when i’m

741
00:38:26,856 –> 00:38:29,741
[niomi_hurley]: working with leaders and working in the
corporate world still

742
00:38:29,521 –> 00:38:29,602
[adam_hill]: oh

743
00:38:29,921 –> 00:38:33,327
[niomi_hurley]: so you can take the girl out
of corporate you can’t take corporate out of

744
00:38:33,367 –> 00:38:34,689
[niomi_hurley]: the girl right so

745
00:38:35,922 –> 00:38:36,126
[adam_hill]: right

746
00:38:36,152 –> 00:38:37,253
[niomi_hurley]: i’m actually developing

747
00:38:36,870 –> 00:38:36,890
[adam_hill]: m

748
00:38:37,814 –> 00:38:41,941
[niomi_hurley]: some programs at the moment which will
be like a membership again for people that

749
00:38:42,001 –> 00:38:45,868
[niomi_hurley]: have some limited affordability so they can
still access some of the information that i

750
00:38:45,968 –> 00:38:51,237
[niomi_hurley]: share forms a still go you go
ahead ve got some online trainings and things

751
00:38:51,277 –> 00:38:56,806
[niomi_hurley]: that i’m doing and also the individual
services because some of the people that i’m

752
00:38:57,347 –> 00:39:01,414
[niomi_hurley]: involved with corporately then go well i
want to get rid of subconscious programming

753
00:39:00,870 –> 00:39:01,151
[adam_hill]: oh

754
00:39:01,614 –> 00:39:07,163
[niomi_hurley]: which is where the ability for one
or one sessions comes in and the ability

755
00:39:06,840 –> 00:39:07,770
[adam_hill]: oh

756
00:39:07,263 –> 00:39:09,908
[niomi_hurley]: to do that as well over zoom
or in person

757
00:39:09,810 –> 00:39:10,052
[adam_hill]: oh

758
00:39:09,988 –> 00:39:10,950
[niomi_hurley]: is great because

759
00:39:11,328 –> 00:39:11,490
[adam_hill]: yeah

760
00:39:11,450 –> 00:39:14,239
[niomi_hurley]: it doesn’t limit the people that i
can help which is just awesome

761
00:39:16,391 –> 00:39:19,716
[adam_hill]: yeah well that’s fantastic and and i
know you kind of you mentioned in there

762
00:39:19,937 –> 00:39:23,983
[adam_hill]: i heard it loud and clear but
i know you kind of glossed over it

763
00:39:24,043 –> 00:39:26,888
[adam_hill]: was the dealing with difficult people course
i

764
00:39:27,032 –> 00:39:27,214
[niomi_hurley]: yeah

765
00:39:27,048 –> 00:39:28,951
[adam_hill]: love that idea so can you

766
00:39:28,872 –> 00:39:29,174
[niomi_hurley]: oh

767
00:39:29,031 –> 00:39:31,314
[adam_hill]: can you just basically just give a
quick shout

768
00:39:31,295 –> 00:39:31,375
[niomi_hurley]: ah

769
00:39:31,394 –> 00:39:34,338
[adam_hill]: out on that because i think there’s
a lot of leaders that can benefit from

770
00:39:34,418 –> 00:39:34,478
[adam_hill]: it

771
00:39:35,663 –> 00:39:40,531
[niomi_hurley]: it’s because we’re going to the place
we don’t deal with this is the thing

772
00:39:40,731 –> 00:39:44,738
[niomi_hurley]: leaders don’t deal with difficult people a
lot of the time not

773
00:39:44,684 –> 00:39:44,704
[adam_hill]: h

774
00:39:44,798 –> 00:39:45,619
[niomi_hurley]: saying everyone but

775
00:39:45,879 –> 00:39:45,900
[adam_hill]: m

776
00:39:46,020 –> 00:39:50,788
[niomi_hurley]: and then that career it’s people in
the workplace that aren’t performing that then pieces

777
00:39:50,888 –> 00:39:54,414
[niomi_hurley]: off the people that are performing and
then you lose talent or you just lose

778
00:39:54,454 –> 00:39:56,998
[niomi_hurley]: productivity right so the

779
00:39:56,941 –> 00:39:57,103
[adam_hill]: yeah

780
00:39:57,078 –> 00:39:57,759
[niomi_hurley]: dealing with difficult

781
00:39:57,488 –> 00:39:57,671
[adam_hill]: right

782
00:39:57,819 –> 00:40:04,891
[niomi_hurley]: people course goes in more looking internally
so it looks at personality testing what personality

783
00:40:04,931 –> 00:40:07,796
[niomi_hurley]: they come out i go through tony
robin’s

784
00:40:07,673 –> 00:40:07,713
[adam_hill]: h

785
00:40:08,157 –> 00:40:08,297
[niomi_hurley]: six

786
00:40:08,379 –> 00:40:08,400
[adam_hill]: m

787
00:40:08,417 –> 00:40:13,967
[niomi_hurley]: cortes certainty uncertainty growth all of those
sorts of things to help them get an

788
00:40:14,027 –> 00:40:18,475
[niomi_hurley]: understanding of why they come in and
present the way they do i also talk

789
00:40:18,555 –> 00:40:25,417
[niomi_hurley]: about the four core roles that maria
here teachers which is the sick one the

790
00:40:25,497 –> 00:40:30,845
[niomi_hurley]: rebel the achiever or the care so
people are the one or a combination

791
00:40:30,641 –> 00:40:30,702
[adam_hill]: hm

792
00:40:30,905 –> 00:40:35,513
[niomi_hurley]: of those and understanding why you’re one
of those and why subconsciously you’re wide that

793
00:40:35,573 –> 00:40:40,481
[niomi_hurley]: way can then also help you understand
why other people are wide that way right

794
00:40:40,802 –> 00:40:44,714
[niomi_hurley]: they come they don’t treat you and
i like they’re not trying to

795
00:40:44,730 –> 00:40:44,893
[adam_hill]: yeah

796
00:40:44,754 –> 00:40:49,762
[niomi_hurley]: compete with me they can’t help it
that’s their subconscious wiring you know and so

797
00:40:49,902 –> 00:40:53,829
[niomi_hurley]: moving through that space and then going
into okay hear some techniques that you can

798
00:40:53,929 –> 00:40:59,558
[niomi_hurley]: help also now do you with people
of all of those different traits and when

799
00:40:59,598 –> 00:41:00,720
[niomi_hurley]: they’re displaying those needs

800
00:41:00,694 –> 00:41:00,714
[adam_hill]: m

801
00:41:00,941 –> 00:41:02,103
[niomi_hurley]: so it’s really

802
00:41:01,869 –> 00:41:01,890
[adam_hill]: m

803
00:41:02,964 –> 00:41:08,255
[niomi_hurley]: come i sell them what they want
give them what they need of course if

804
00:41:08,356 –> 00:41:08,978
[niomi_hurley]: i’m being honest

805
00:41:09,750 –> 00:41:13,216
[adam_hill]: yeah well that’s why i wanted to
touch on it because i know that that’s

806
00:41:13,296 –> 00:41:20,227
[adam_hill]: a lot of what’s ignored in in
the corporate world is looking at you know

807
00:41:20,267 –> 00:41:25,035
[adam_hill]: that the folks i mean you said
it so perfectly the fact that we’re tolerating

808
00:41:25,616 –> 00:41:29,002
[adam_hill]: maybe the people that we shouldn’t be
tolerating at the expense of the people that

809
00:41:29,162 –> 00:41:31,827
[adam_hill]: are really really building the company and

810
00:41:31,762 –> 00:41:31,944
[niomi_hurley]: yeah

811
00:41:32,247 –> 00:41:35,813
[adam_hill]: we’re going to lose that talent we
don’t address that and we don’t nip that

812
00:41:35,953 –> 00:41:40,361
[adam_hill]: stuff in the butt so dealing with
difficult people i think that there’s a ton

813
00:41:40,581 –> 00:41:45,029
[adam_hill]: of value in of course just like
that so and they can find that at

814
00:41:45,089 –> 00:41:46,034
[adam_hill]: your website

815
00:41:46,742 –> 00:41:51,530
[niomi_hurley]: yes if they go to get up
and grow consulting dot com dot they’ll find

816
00:41:51,590 –> 00:41:55,957
[niomi_hurley]: a whole range of courses that i
do and i think traditionally training in leadership

817
00:41:56,378 –> 00:42:01,506
[niomi_hurley]: when we talk about has been ditonally
around like the my brigs personality testing or

818
00:42:01,647 –> 00:42:03,350
[niomi_hurley]: actually which i do touch on

819
00:42:03,425 –> 00:42:04,020
[adam_hill]: hm

820
00:42:03,690 –> 00:42:09,460
[niomi_hurley]: all personality testing but we’re never actually
told that that’s not fixed right and i

821
00:42:09,540 –> 00:42:10,682
[niomi_hurley]: think as well our genera a

822
00:42:10,715 –> 00:42:10,735
[adam_hill]: h

823
00:42:11,203 –> 00:42:11,623
[niomi_hurley]: lot of us

824
00:42:11,529 –> 00:42:11,550
[adam_hill]: m

825
00:42:11,683 –> 00:42:15,450
[niomi_hurley]: were raised in this fixed mind set
environment where you are who you are you

826
00:42:15,570 –> 00:42:19,176
[niomi_hurley]: do what you do you get a
job but shifting into more of that growth

827
00:42:19,256 –> 00:42:24,067
[niomi_hurley]: mind set which is covered in this
course as well actually then tells us that

828
00:42:24,168 –> 00:42:28,746
[niomi_hurley]: this isn’t who we are this is
who we’re programme to be right now everything

829
00:42:28,786 –> 00:42:29,290
[niomi_hurley]: is valuable

830
00:42:29,473 –> 00:42:30,180
[adam_hill]: hm

831
00:42:29,531 –> 00:42:30,578
[niomi_hurley]: everything s changeable

832
00:42:33,140 –> 00:42:40,152
[adam_hill]: we we’re always fluid always changing i
love that so that’s a t’sit’sit’s a it’s

833
00:42:40,232 –> 00:42:44,138
[adam_hill]: great work that you’re doing here because
you’re getting to the root of of you

834
00:42:44,198 –> 00:42:50,589
[adam_hill]: know truly ship which is personalities managing
personalities managing our own personalities managing our feelings

835
00:42:50,930 –> 00:42:55,377
[adam_hill]: managing all of our fears and all
of those things that seem to be a

836
00:42:55,437 –> 00:42:59,364
[adam_hill]: limited within our minds actually become an
asset and you’re

837
00:42:59,243 –> 00:42:59,405
[niomi_hurley]: yeah

838
00:42:59,404 –> 00:43:02,789
[adam_hill]: turning them into an asset i think
you’re doing wonderful work naomi and i hope

839
00:43:02,850 –> 00:43:07,137
[adam_hill]: people look you up like like you
said they can find you get up and

840
00:43:07,177 –> 00:43:10,665
[adam_hill]: grow consulting dot com dot a you
and

841
00:43:10,502 –> 00:43:10,687
[niomi_hurley]: yes

842
00:43:10,885 –> 00:43:13,412
[adam_hill]: any anywhere else that they can find
you any any

843
00:43:14,522 –> 00:43:14,805
[niomi_hurley]: yeh

844
00:43:14,596 –> 00:43:15,518
[adam_hill]: where else can people find you

845
00:43:16,062 –> 00:43:20,709
[niomi_hurley]: i’ve got profiles on socials i’ve got
a company and a personal profile linked in

846
00:43:20,850 –> 00:43:24,716
[niomi_hurley]: love for you to reach out and
connect always happy to connect with some like

847
00:43:24,776 –> 00:43:29,407
[niomi_hurley]: minded people i love that and instagram
and facebook well if people are using those

848
00:43:29,487 –> 00:43:30,149
[niomi_hurley]: platforms too

849
00:43:32,630 –> 00:43:36,556
[adam_hill]: awesome well thank you so much for
being here naomi this was this was excellent

850
00:43:36,597 –> 00:43:40,964
[adam_hill]: and there’s a ton of value here
and i wish you so much success in

851
00:43:41,004 –> 00:43:44,049
[adam_hill]: what you’re doing and based on what
i’ve seen thus far you’re going to you’re

852
00:43:44,069 –> 00:43:46,679
[adam_hill]: going to hit moon and you’re going
to help a lot of people along the

853
00:43:46,719 –> 00:43:48,587
[adam_hill]: way so thank you so much for
joining us

854
00:43:49,422 –> 00:43:54,126
[niomi_hurley]: thank you adam thank you for not
only having me on but also being a

855
00:43:54,206 –> 00:43:57,849
[niomi_hurley]: fan you know and a support and
someone i can reach out to i really

856
00:43:57,889 –> 00:43:59,551
[niomi_hurley]: appreciate you and i value thank you

857
00:44:01,770 –> 00:44:04,758
[adam_hill]: any time thank you everyone for tuning
in we’ll catch you next time